I am not sure what crawled up your bum but you clearly either did not read what I wrote or did not understand it. To be honest, based on your reply, I could care less. As far as attitude goes, might want to check with a mirror real quick.

 

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i wasn't trying to paint you as a bad person. i would have just called you one if i thought that but i don't really believe in bad or good people. like, TUG, he's probably a sociopath. i don't really blame him either - maybe it was his prenatal environment?


the fact that you have to prioritize your concerns confirms what i've been saying all along: that caring is cognitively exhausting and one can think of plenty of reasons of why not to care about miners in africa. if you plotted free time during the day and caring about miners in africa i would guess you would find a relationship. you'd have hippies with nothing to do who care one one end and busy people with more pressing concerns on the other.


mo busy mo problems. in the real and practical world, the reasons for not caring will usually dominate and not caring will make perfect sense. what i'm really arguing is that your decision is coming from some place else. unless you are truly indifferent to others, your decision was likely made due to pragmatism not because it was inherently the right thing to do. that's not bad because pragmatism definitely has its place.

but how is that attitude going to effect us all? is it really the right framework of reasoning to adopt? is that the reasoning you would like to see everyone adopting? personally i don't. when you decide confidently that you don't care you also stop thinking about it. even if you just entertained the notion of caring and therefore doing something then you at least thought about it.

so high

sorry i just think it's funny when people get really defensive when i call their beliefs toxic or silly. it's like their brains shut down and they start saying things like 'i could care less'.


i mean, sheesh, how attached to your beliefs are you?

Ahh, you got me, you were only trolling.

 

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no i stand by the content of my posts

if you want to debate my arguments intellectually i am ready

I could give a rats ass if my diamond or ipad came from a 7yo slave working 25/8 for a cup of water and a teaspoon of rice.

As long as i get my sh*t and i get it cheap.

 

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That would require you to display some intelligence. I simply stated why Chinese manufacturing is so prevalant and how the masses don't seem to care about anything other than getting their fix. I even stated I am opposed to the policies that overseas manufacturers have in place. That rambling string of crap you posted made no sense but I understand the need for a +1 so I salute you sir, well played.

 

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genius is always misunderstood.

or

i'm not gonna fall for your trolling. too obvi ~


pick whichever answer is easier for you

I've been trying to bring people's attentions to coltan for years. *shrug*

People don't care when it's their hybrid cars, cellphones, PCs and so forth, I guess.

 

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Tai's post was filled with fallacies and basically irrelevant to the original topic. Hence, even if the purpose wasn't to "water down" the human tragedy here, and our linked personal responsibility, that is all the post successfully attempted (and failed at it).

China/Foxconn has only really "leapfrogged" other companies at manufacturing is their incredibly cheap labor, and that is what is at issue. The savings you get from not paying labor dwarfs any other innovation/technique. And there is absolutely 0 reason American companies must abuse that model to be profitable or deliver new "bling" every year.

As for people who try to justify "not caring", you are on a fool's errand. You can 'not care', but you cannot justify it with reason. If it was your child, sibling, parent or friend in those factories, losing their health and time on this Earth to produce gadgets, you'd become immediately distraught. It's just human wiring, and we as humans have to decide to what extent we are going to care beyond our "default settings".

We could just as well be sitting alongside these workers, asking the 16 year old to hand over the I-Pod when they are done putting on the final touches. But being safely across the ocean, we are not affronted by the greed and guilt we would feel if we had to do the taking.

 

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