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silvadel2  2 stars
Posts: 378
Registered: 2009-7-13 09:37:29
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Enslaved into jury duty
One of the worst aspects of our legal system is the jury system.

1) Most of the people you actually want manage to get out of it.
2) People are treated quite badly -- you are a cog, nothing more.
3) People are on edge because you could quite literally end up in jail if you do something wrong.
4) It disrupts the economy -- oops my only worker in a 2 person shop just got called for a 3 month trial.
5) It is servitude.
6) People under these circumstances are disinclined to actually do their best at it.
7) It tends to provide very random results due to
7a) Jury nullification
7b) People being fooled by a nice face
7c) People being fooled into a guilty verdict due to other cues
7d) People being fooled by authority (or the opposite -- rebelling against authority)
8) It strives for people who do NOT know the law
9) It strives for people who live in a bag (know nothing about local or national news even)
10) It is very prone to local variation -- your verdict in one county might be different than if you were arrested in a different demographic.

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There are tons more reasons, but the upshot of it is, I would be much happier if we had paid jurists who actually had some training in the law and some natural ability for it.

 

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JD_HOGG  4 stars
Posts: 2,846
Registered: 2008-3-18 08:04:21
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Enslaved into jury duty
silvadel2 posted:
One of the worst aspects of our legal system is the jury system.

1) Most of the people you actually want manage to get out of it.
2) People are treated quite badly -- you are a cog, nothing more.
3) People are on edge because you could quite literally end up in jail if you do something wrong.
4) It disrupts the economy -- oops my only worker in a 2 person shop just got called for a 3 month trial.
5) It is servitude.
6) People under these circumstances are disinclined to actually do their best at it.
7) It tends to provide very random results due to
7a) Jury nullification
7b) People being fooled by a nice face
7c) People being fooled into a guilty verdict due to other cues
7d) People being fooled by authority (or the opposite -- rebelling against authority)
8) It strives for people who do NOT know the law
9) It strives for people who live in a bag (know nothing about local or national news even)
10) It is very prone to local variation -- your verdict in one county might be different than if you were arrested in a different demographic.

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There are tons more reasons, but the upshot of it is, I would be much happier if we had paid jurists who actually had some training in the law and some natural ability for it.



But intelligent people are not my peers!!!!!!!!
silvadel2  2 stars
Posts: 378
Registered: 2009-7-13 09:37:29
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Enslaved into jury duty
JD_HOGG posted:
silvadel2 posted:
One of the worst aspects of our legal system is the jury system.

1) Most of the people you actually want manage to get out of it.
2) People are treated quite badly -- you are a cog, nothing more.
3) People are on edge because you could quite literally end up in jail if you do something wrong.
4) It disrupts the economy -- oops my only worker in a 2 person shop just got called for a 3 month trial.
5) It is servitude.
6) People under these circumstances are disinclined to actually do their best at it.
7) It tends to provide very random results due to
7a) Jury nullification
7b) People being fooled by a nice face
7c) People being fooled into a guilty verdict due to other cues
7d) People being fooled by authority (or the opposite -- rebelling against authority)
8) It strives for people who do NOT know the law
9) It strives for people who live in a bag (know nothing about local or national news even)
10) It is very prone to local variation -- your verdict in one county might be different than if you were arrested in a different demographic.

----

There are tons more reasons, but the upshot of it is, I would be much happier if we had paid jurists who actually had some training in the law and some natural ability for it.



But intelligent people are not my peers!!!!!!!!



Maybe people with an 85 IQ should have a jury full of people with 85 IQ, and people with a 160 IQ should have a 160 IQ populated jury.

 

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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
Posts: 1,851
Registered: 2002-12-21 13:40:03
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Enslaved into jury duty
only time I have ever got a letter was when i was active duty.
so that was my get out of jail card.

I havent got one since 2003 or 4, I think its because I dont register to vote anymore.

 

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Gaevren  4 stars
Title: Wat do?
Posts: 1,181
Registered: 2004-9-15 09:29:36
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Enslaved into jury duty
Sith_Mauler posted:
only time I have ever got a letter was when i was active duty.
so that was my get out of jail card.

I havent got one since 2003 or 4, I think its because I dont register to vote anymore.



Nope has nothing to do with it. My husband got his even though he'd never taken any steps towards "officialness" in the state of any kind. No new driver's license, he didn't register to vote, nada- and he still got one.

 

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notmforce2k  4 stars
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Registered: 2011-10-9 09:37:34
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Enslaved into jury duty
Dark_EternalFF posted:
Just walk in, and during the initial interview say you don't trust cops and you hate black people. They'll send you home.



Bam.
Fozzie_Bear  4 stars
Posts: 2,490
Registered: 2001-12-20 01:43:43
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Enslaved into jury duty
THAT N@#$@# GUILTY!

HANG HIM NOW, I GOT THE ROPE RIGHT HERE!

 

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JD_HOGG  4 stars
Posts: 2,846
Registered: 2008-3-18 08:04:21
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Enslaved into jury duty
Did you guys miss the post where I said the court is on MLK JR blvd? I do not think that would be wise to pretend to be a racist there.
-Foxy-  5 stars
Title: Moderator
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Posts: 6,565
Registered: 2002-5-29 21:46:17
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Enslaved into jury duty
been lots, served 2 or 3 times

 

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Caoilin  4 stars
Title: Instigator
Posts: 2,278
Registered: 2001-11-20 00:03:45
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Enslaved into jury duty
i have a permanent letter from my doctor but i've not used it yet. i have too much fun writing in the most ridiculous things into the reasons i won't show up thing on the back. i never hear back from them so i'm never required to actually go. i did go once because i forgot to mail the form back. but i was unemployed at the time so i just went up to the people at the counter and said i forgot to mail this back, i'm on unemployment. and they shooed me out the door. apparently the goverment can't abide by paying you for not working, then also paying you $10 a day for sitting in a room.

 

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