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levgre  3 stars
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Brother_Tempus posted:

levgre posted:

Aerlinthian posted:

Here is the problem with that. The "think of the children!" paradigm is precisely what has set up these egalitarian social safety nets that help to create more of these children. That is why you're ultimately better off with private charities.



Except there's no evidence/proof that the welfare system has a noteworthy impact on birthrates. It's just an issue conservatives exploit to rile up voters.



Rothbard makes an excellent case

http://mises.org/journals/jls/12_2/12_2_1.pdf



Um no, 40 pages of theoretical rambling is not compelling when you do not have any statistical correlations.

 

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JD_HOGG  4 stars
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Liberal weenies are never happy. Are the poor better off today than they were 100 years ago? Of course they are. But that's not good enough. They have to have luxuries.
Fallen_daemon  3 stars
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legal prostitution, i'm sure she'll be able to afford child care,

 

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-Kruugar-  1 star
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Does it bother you that your tax dollars go to support people that can not support their own kids?

No. Because child birth is the largest contribution to the economy. It produces another consumer who will consume products... giving other people jobs.

 

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Second_Chance  2 stars
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Does it bother you that your tax dollars go to support people that can not support their own kids?


As long as we have the current military industrial complex, we will have unnecessary children. Or, cannon fodder.

 

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Aerlinthian  4 stars
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-Kruugar- posted:

No. Because child birth is the largest contribution to the economy. It produces another consumer who will consume products... giving other people jobs.

Funny, I thought the left was all fired up on population reduction and more resource conservation. All of those "consumers" are going to want luxuries in addition to meats and other items that are claimed to have a significant impact upon planetary resources and climate change.


uglydwarf  1 star
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Ben Franklin had it right.


“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
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Dark_EternalFF  4 stars
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-Mithan- posted:

Does it bother you that your tax dollars go to support people that can not support their own kids?
Depends. Are they just down on their luck, or are they heroin addicts? Is the money going towards the kids, or towards the parents?
What do you think people should do to fix this issue?
Tough to say. You risk not helping people who genuinely need it in order to weed out people who abuse the system. Drug testing for welfare benefits would be a start, but I think government-funded rehab programs rather than money spent on a war on drugs would help alleviate this problem better.
Do you think that society as a whole should devote tax dollars to helping people who can not raise their own kids?
Generally, yes
Do you think men should be equally to pay for this?
Not even sure wtf you mean by this
Is it ok for abortion to be used as birth control or is it better for the child to be born into what may (in many cases) be a cycle of poverty.
I believe in taking responsibility for one's actions, but I don't believe I have the right to tell someone else not to have an abortion. I'm not a 'pro-lifer'; human life does not have intrinsic value to me simply for existing. I would rather see a child given up for adoption than aborted, but I'm not willing to force this on others.

 

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-Kruugar-  1 star
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Aerlinthian posted:

-Kruugar- posted:

No. Because child birth is the largest contribution to the economy. It produces another consumer who will consume products... giving other people jobs.

Funny, I thought the left was all fired up on population reduction and more resource conservation. All of those "consumers" are going to want luxuries in addition to meats and other items that are claimed to have a significant impact upon planetary resources and climate change.






Thankfully I'm a Centrist.

 

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Aerlinthian  4 stars
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For which country are you a centrist, Canada or America?

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