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OG_Loki  Title: *Pelvic Thrust*
Posts: 910
Registered: 2002-1-26 18:18:46
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Jezza_Belle posted:
OG_Loki posted:
It doesn't bother me that my tax dollars goes towards supporting kids who are either too irresponsible to take care of them on their own or are down on their luck. Doesn't bother me one bit.
Everyone needs help at something at some point in their lives, without these kinds of lifelines more children suffer, you can blame their parents all you want, but that is still no reason to let the kids suffer.
Why are you acting like I disagree with you?
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Mangler_SC  Title: Bellybutton Lint Collector
Posts: 1,856
Registered: 2003-12-2 08:37:05
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Rhodoman posted:
Surely, you're not saying
We have the resources
To save the poor from their lot.
There will be poor always
Pathetically struggling
Look at the good things you've got.
Rho
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jungalist  Posts: 216
Registered: 2001-8-25 10:21:58
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The obvious solution is to sterilize everyone at birth and only reverse the procedure after the individual obtains the proper licenses.
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-Mithan- Title: VNBoard Admin
Posts: 1,287
Registered: 2000-3-1 11:53:15
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jungalist posted:
The obvious solution is to sterilize everyone at birth and only reverse the procedure after the individual obtains the proper licenses.
That would actually be an interesting solution.
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-Ducky- Posts: 580
Registered: 2001-6-1 14:21:49
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I'm torn on the matter because really in the end the kids are the ones that are punished and they are here by no fault of their own.
There is already a lifetime limit on cash assistance. The limit is 5 years. I think that there should also be limits on housing subsidies unless you are a disabled or an elderly individual. If you are able to work then there should be limits.
I also think that in order to get food stamps you should have to attend a cooking class and learn how to make foods that aren't frozen, deep fried, or canned. No one can force people to cook and eat better but at least they would have the tools. I also am fine with limits being placed on what types of foods can be purchased with food stamps. No one NEEDS soda, candies, or chips to survive. Does this penalize those who are needing help? Yes. But I still feel that it is acceptable.
Above all there needs to be more accountability for people who are receiving any kind of benefits. If you receive housing assistance or cash assistance then you need to be active and participating with a case manager. You need to be applying for jobs or going to school. Right now these types of things are voluntary. If your children are in school all day and you don't work then I will give you a bus pass and you can be out applying for jobs, doing a resume, going to school to get training, etc. There's absolutely no reason for you to be at home doing nothing productive.
There are people out there that really and truly need help. And there are lazy people. Time limits on assistance will get rid of the lazy people and the case management, guidance, and links to resources can help the people who want to help themselves but don't know where to begin.
HOWEVER. The rest of society also has to be open to change and working towards a common good. The other day a girl came into the office and basically said she has given up on ever doing anything with her life because she has a criminal record. I have no idea what it was for, but it had to be non-violent/non-drug related or she wouldn't be in my office. Regardless, this girl had no ambitions because she felt that a mistake she made when she was 18 or 19 has ruined the rest of her life. She is likely not more than 23 years old. How sad it is to have given up at such a young age and feel that the rest of society has given up on you too.
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Itab Title: I
Posts: 1,020
Registered: 2006-2-20 07:38:15
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myxomatosis8 posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
WhipSmack posted:
Keep it in your pants if you don't want a kid. Sex is over-rated.
sex is a biological need, you cant change genetic instincts.
you can take a man and woman and isolate them from the world(basically lock them in a room), and eventually they will figure out how to have sex, with no outside influences.
Didn't this happen on the Blue Lagoon?
He summarized the plot.
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-Mithan- Title: VNBoard Admin
Posts: 1,287
Registered: 2000-3-1 11:53:15
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-Ducky- posted:
I'm torn on the matter because really in the end the kids are the ones that are punished and they are here by no fault of their own.
There is already a lifetime limit on cash assistance. The limit is 5 years. I think that there should also be limits on housing subsidies unless you are a disabled or an elderly individual. If you are able to work then there should be limits.
I also think that in order to get food stamps you should have to attend a cooking class and learn how to make foods that aren't frozen, deep fried, or canned. No one can force people to cook and eat better but at least they would have the tools. I also am fine with limits being placed on what types of foods can be purchased with food stamps. No one NEEDS soda, candies, or chips to survive. Does this penalize those who are needing help? Yes. But I still feel that it is acceptable.
Above all there needs to be more accountability for people who are receiving any kind of benefits. If you receive housing assistance or cash assistance then you need to be active and participating with a case manager. You need to be applying for jobs or going to school. Right now these types of things are voluntary. If your children are in school all day and you don't work then I will give you a bus pass and you can be out applying for jobs, doing a resume, going to school to get training, etc. There's absolutely no reason for you to be at home doing nothing productive.
There are people out there that really and truly need help. And there are lazy people. Time limits on assistance will get rid of the lazy people and the case management, guidance, and links to resources can help the people who want to help themselves but don't know where to begin.
HOWEVER. The rest of society also has to be open to change and working towards a common good. The other day a girl came into the office and basically said she has given up on ever doing anything with her life because she has a criminal record. I have no idea what it was for, but it had to be non-violent/non-drug related or she wouldn't be in my office. Regardless, this girl had no ambitions because she felt that a mistake she made when she was 18 or 19 has ruined the rest of her life. She is likely not more than 23 years old. How sad it is to have given up at such a young age and feel that the rest of society has given up on you too.
Such a thoughtful post. You are definitely a cut above most of the rabble on ACF.
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BritonGuy Title: Serious Business
Posts: 1,567
Registered: 2004-3-4 20:43:50
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If we aren't making an effort to learn about and colonize space, everything else is useless. Maybe if enough babies pop out, we can create a human capable of enough political success and sense to convince everyone to invest heavily in space research while toning down other useless endeavors.
This above most is the reason Obama is a crappy president. He's willing to drone around in Pakistan, but space is a no fly zone.
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Jezza_Belle Title: =^.^=
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Registered: 2001-2-24 02:29:30
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OG_Loki posted:
Jezza_Belle posted:
OG_Loki posted:
It doesn't bother me that my tax dollars goes towards supporting kids who are either too irresponsible to take care of them on their own or are down on their luck. Doesn't bother me one bit.
Everyone needs help at something at some point in their lives, without these kinds of lifelines more children suffer, you can blame their parents all you want, but that is still no reason to let the kids suffer.
Why are you acting like I disagree with you?
I'm not? I'm quoting you because I agreed fully, and wanted to add to it.
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Date Posted:
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Tax Dollars and supporting kids that parents can not support on their own |
-Ducky- posted:
The rest of society also has to be open to change and working towards a common good. The other day a girl came into the office and basically said she has given up on ever doing anything with her life because she has a criminal record. I have no idea what it was for, but it had to be non-violent/non-drug related or she wouldn't be in my office. Regardless, this girl had no ambitions because she felt that a mistake she made when she was 18 or 19 has ruined the rest of her life. She is likely not more than 23 years old. How sad it is to have given up at such a young age and feel that the rest of society has given up on you too.
I really think we need to do something about the way that criminal records are considered in employment. Maybe misdemeanors don't show up except to the police department until a second offense or something.
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