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-Mithan-  4 stars
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This is sort of a follow up discussing to what is going on in the media now about Rick Santorum, his views on abortion/contraception and then the general argument for/against wellfare, paying for other people's kids and the general social degradation happening where women have babies they can not support.


Does it bother you that your tax dollars go to support people that can not support their own kids?
What do you think people should do to fix this issue?
Do you think that society as a hole should devote tax dollars to helping people who can not raise their own kids?
Do you think men should be equally to pay for this?
Is it ok for abortion to be used as birth control or is it better for the child to be born into what may (in many cases) be a cycle of poverty.
etc

Get out there ACF! I now you all have opinions on this matter. This is the place to discuss those opinions, vent, debate, etc!!!!!!!!!

PS: Please keep in mind we are discussing people having kids that can not support them, but if you want to bring on the fallout endured when a family breaks up and what happens then (you know, dead beat dad leaves with the younger babysitter or something), feel free.


Myself, I am a bit split on the issue. I don't want to see people starving on the street obviously, but I really have an issue with dumbasses who go out and have sex and then cry about how their life sucks and how I should feel guilty because I dont want even more of my money taken away to pay for htem. I do feel for the kids who didn't ask to be born into a poverty trap or stuck with an uncaring mother/father though and feel that is a main reason that society has issues.

 

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OG_Loki  3 stars
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It doesn't bother me that my tax dollars goes towards supporting kids who are either too irresponsible to take care of them on their own or are down on their luck. Doesn't bother me one bit.

 

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Fallen_daemon  3 stars
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it bothers me that smart, hard working people have to work all their lives to have kids. while lazy no good people have kids and can't even bother to support them.

this goes for corporate welfare too. lazy companies are in the same boat.

 

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WhipSmack  2 stars
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If they need help via welfare or food stamps, they should be required to work for it. Food stamps should be distributed with basic foods from a food bank. If they still cannot manage to take care of their lives and kids, they should consider eating the kids or adopting them out.

Seriously you have to humiliate people for them to change their ways. You SHOULD feel ashamed for not being able to provide for your family. You should feel embarassed to pull out those food stamps, and be motivated to change.

Keep it in your pants if you don't want a kid. Sex is over-rated.
Jezza_Belle  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-2-24 02:29:30
OG_Loki posted:

It doesn't bother me that my tax dollars goes towards supporting kids who are either too irresponsible to take care of them on their own or are down on their luck. Doesn't bother me one bit.



Everyone needs help at something at some point in their lives, without these kinds of lifelines more children suffer, you can blame their parents all you want, but that is still no reason to let the kids suffer.

 

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OG_Loki  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-26 18:18:46
WhipSmack posted:

If they need help via welfare or food stamps, they should be required to work for it. Food stamps should be distributed with basic foods from a food bank. If they still cannot manage to take care of their lives and kids, they should consider eating the kids or adopting them out.

Seriously you have to humiliate people for them to change their ways. You SHOULD feel ashamed for not being able to provide for your family. You should feel embarassed to pull out those food stamps, and be motivated to change.

Keep it in your pants if you don't want a kid. Sex is over-rated.



Implying that they aren't shamed already...

 

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Sith_Mauler  4 stars
Posts: 1,851
Registered: 2002-12-21 13:40:03
WhipSmack posted:

Keep it in your pants if you don't want a kid. Sex is over-rated.



sex is a biological need, you cant change genetic instincts.

you can take a man and woman and isolate them from the world(basically lock them in a room), and eventually they will figure out how to have sex, with no outside influences.


the bottom line is people care until they are forced to open up their check books, then not so many people care.

 

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Kordirn  4 stars
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Registered: 2004-4-19 01:15:26
OG_Loki posted:

It doesn't bother me that my tax dollars goes towards supporting kids who are either too irresponsible to take care of them on their own or are down on their luck. Doesn't bother me one bit.



It bothers me a bit, but I don't think there are any other viable alternatives.

 

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WhipSmack  2 stars
Posts: 358
Registered: 2001-1-8 19:15:50
OG_Loki posted:

WhipSmack posted:

If they need help via welfare or food stamps, they should be required to work for it. Food stamps should be distributed with basic foods from a food bank. If they still cannot manage to take care of their lives and kids, they should consider eating the kids or adopting them out.

Seriously you have to humiliate people for them to change their ways. You SHOULD feel ashamed for not being able to provide for your family. You should feel embarassed to pull out those food stamps, and be motivated to change.

Keep it in your pants if you don't want a kid. Sex is over-rated.



Implying that they aren't shamed already...



Those mexicans are not shamed, they gloat about it while they drive around in their tricked out car. Can you blame them? They beat the system and laugh in our faces.
Hiakisha  2 stars
Title: Newbcakes
Posts: 337
Registered: 2003-8-5 18:25:36
There should be a limit on how long you can be on Welfare because its ridiculous when people just stay on welfare their whole lives because its easier than working.

i dont mind helping people who are in trouble but seriously your priorities should be:

1) GET A JOB
2) Kids

it shouldnt be:

1) Clubbing
2) Cigarettes
3) Booze
4) Parties
5) Pizza Hut
108092387597589038244903287957120980918190248) Getting the hell off Welfare

 

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