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Ptilk  Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
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It wasn't in exchange for a blow job, that would be sad.
It was as a thank you for a blow job. She earned it. Really. Damn. Wonder if I can find her number....?
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Reapist Title: Official ACF HIOFI Poster
Posts: 4,367
Registered: 2001-12-20 03:56:16
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If stupidity was a crime BT would be in lockup.
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Ah-Schoo Title: Fuzzy Caterpillar of Friendliness
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Registered: 2000-8-11 09:05:29
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Brother_Tempus posted:
Fatal accidents happen even when the person is sober.
Aahh, good old "but something else happened" logical failure. I knew I could count on B_T for that fallacy.
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
Registered: 2002-12-21 13:40:03
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jeune posted:
unless you have someone under 16 in the car. Just saw this and not sure how I feel. One side feels like drinking and driving is serious and should be punished... but I also feel like it is something that most people have done before. DWI convictions haunt people forever... and I have a weird feeling that this would change people a lot more because they would be scared to get a second one... should we have any compassion?!
http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/docs/owi-penchrt.pdf
many states have a "ard" program that they send you to if you are a first time offender.
basically you pay some money, go to classes and in 6-12 months the charges disappear off your record.
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Brother_Tempus  Title: Patriot
Posts: 985
Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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jeune posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
Fatal accidents happen even when the person is sober. Anyone who causes harm should be held accountable but the immorality of pre-emptive action or behavior modification is more heinous than the supposed "crime" they are trying to stop
What exactly is the pre-emptive action going on here?
Not allowing people to drive while intoxicated, whatever that definition may mean since it seems to move around a lot.
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-Mithan- Title: VNBoard Admin
Posts: 1,287
Registered: 2000-3-1 11:53:15
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Brother_Tempus posted:
jeune posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
Fatal accidents happen even when the person is sober. Anyone who causes harm should be held accountable but the immorality of pre-emptive action or behavior modification is more heinous than the supposed "crime" they are trying to stop
What exactly is the pre-emptive action going on here?
Not allowing people to drive while intoxicated, whatever that definition may mean since it seems to move around a lot.
If you can pass your driving test while intoxicated, I would think you had an argument.
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
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Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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-Mithan- posted:
By filling your body with a mind altering drug (alcohol) and then getting behind the wheel of a 3000 lbs car that can kill people, you are in essence, throwing responsibility out the window. .
Some people don;t need a drug to be dangerous behind a wheel, they could have a neurological chemical imbalance, they could be absent-minded, they could be going senile, the could just be very inexperienced
You appeal to emotion fallacy is noted and ignored as usual
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Reapist Title: Official ACF HIOFI Poster
Posts: 4,367
Registered: 2001-12-20 03:56:16
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Brother_Tempus posted:
-Mithan- posted:
By filling your body with a mind altering drug (alcohol) and then getting behind the wheel of a 3000 lbs car that can kill people, you are in essence, throwing responsibility out the window. .
Some people don;t need a drug to be dangerous behind a wheel, they could have a neurological chemical imbalance, they could be absent-minded, they could be going senile, the could just be very inexperienced
You appeal to emotion fallacy is noted and ignored as usual
If we examine this post very carefully we might be able to figure out what's wrong with BT.
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winga Title: Canadian
Posts: 2,256
Registered: 2001-4-27 15:46:32
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1/1/00 12:00am
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-Mithan- posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
jeune posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
Fatal accidents happen even when the person is sober. Anyone who causes harm should be held accountable but the immorality of pre-emptive action or behavior modification is more heinous than the supposed "crime" they are trying to stop
What exactly is the pre-emptive action going on here?
Not allowing people to drive while intoxicated, whatever that definition may mean since it seems to move around a lot.
If you can pass your driving test while intoxicated, I would think you had an argument.
Is it sad that I think it would be cool to be allowed to do a intoxicated driving test? (Note: I cab it to the bar and buddies houses and never drink and drive.)
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Reapist Title: Official ACF HIOFI Poster
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Registered: 2001-12-20 03:56:16
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But to humor BT I will address his stupidity. You are only given the privilege to operate a vehicle because at some time in the past you exhibited the skill necessary to do so in accordance with standards set by the state. You may at some time in the future arrive at a mental capacity deemed not fit to drive. As we are not the thought police you would need to be observed by an officer operating a motor vehicle in what seems to be an unsafe condition. During a contact with that officer he may request you be tested.
Some elements, such as consumption, are known to lesson ones ability to safely operate a vehicle. Because of this, there are laws in place forbidding this. If you chose to do so anyway you may find yourself in trouble.
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pkhere: Jebus sometimes you make my arse tired.
Referring to illegal aliens as 'immigrants' is the same as referring to shoplifters as 'shoppers' - Dorvinion
I'd feel bad for Satriani but he got himself into it. - allmightybob_MLF
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