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rabbitslayer  3 stars
Posts: 518
Registered: 2001-8-26 17:08:06
Brother_Tempus posted:

DUI is not a crime becuase there is no victim


yeah, same with murder, I have the right to face my accuser in court, it's not my fault that he's dead... well, it is but still ;P
.-Vega-.  2 stars
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Registered: 2005-6-20 13:31:05
Brother_Tempus posted:

DUI is not a crime becuase there is no victim



When there is a quintuple fold increase in the likelihood of you seriously injuring yourself and others, I think you should put the black and white way of handling things aside.

 

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jeune  1 star
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Registered: 2005-5-29 13:25:11
-Mithan- posted:

Hey Jeune, welcome back.



Why thank you Mithan

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-Mithan-  4 stars
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Brother_Tempus posted:

DUI is not a crime becuase there is no victim


So society has no right to take pre-emptive action to protect people?

 

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.-Vega-.  2 stars
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Registered: 2005-6-20 13:31:05
-Mithan- posted:

Brother_Tempus posted:

DUI is not a crime becuase there is no victim


So society has no right to take pre-emptive action to protect people?



MINORITY REPORT.

 

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Brother_Tempus  3 stars
Title: Patriot
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Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
.-Vega-. posted:

Brother_Tempus posted:

DUI is not a crime becuase there is no victim



When there is a quintuple fold increase in the likelihood of you seriously injuring yourself and others, I think you should put the black and white way of handling things aside.



Fatal accidents happen even when the person is sober. Anyone who causes harm should be held accountable but the immorality of pre-emptive action or behavior modification is more heinous than the supposed "crime" they are trying to stop

 

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Ptilk  4 stars
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Your chances of being killed by an under 20 inexperienced driver who is sober, are much worse than your chances of being killed by a drunk guy with 20 years experience driving while messed up.

Just sayin...

Not defending drunk drivers (total idiots who deserve to get smacked hard), but reality and perception are worlds apart on this issue.

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jeune  1 star
Posts: 216
Registered: 2005-5-29 13:25:11
Brother_Tempus posted:

Fatal accidents happen even when the person is sober. Anyone who causes harm should be held accountable but the immorality of pre-emptive action or behavior modification is more heinous than the supposed "crime" they are trying to stop



What exactly is the pre-emptive action going on here? Driving on roads that the public has built is not a right... it is a privilege. To continue driving on public roads you have to follow a host of regulations. It is simply a regulation that the people who have built the road require you to follow... if you think it is morally wrong no one is holding a gun to your head making you drive.

 

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-Mithan-  4 stars
Title: VNBoard Admin
Posts: 1,287
Registered: 2000-3-1 11:53:15
By filling your body with a mind altering drug (alcohol) and then getting behind the wheel of a 3000 lbs car that can kill people, you are in essence, throwing responsibility out the window.

You KNOW your hand/eye co-ordination are impaired.
You KNOW your judgement is severely impaired.
You KNOW your vision has become smaller.

Basically, the skills you proved you had when you got your driving license in the first place are no longer in effect and your license is now void for the duration of your impairment.


That being all said, I do have issues with how people treat DUI.

MADD's propaganda campaign has basically turned DUI into a worse offense than first degree murder or rape in the minds of a lot of people and I disagree with it, or the crazy sentences that some areas want to give you for it.

Its like "oh you killed somebody during a bank robbery? thats cool" is normal then you hear "OMG! YOU DROVE DRUNK!!! YOU SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT AND GIVEN 90 LASHES!".

 

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