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jeune  1 star
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Registered: 2005-5-29 13:25:11
unless you have someone under 16 in the car. Just saw this and not sure how I feel. One side feels like drinking and driving is serious and should be punished... but I also feel like it is something that most people have done before. DWI convictions haunt people forever... and I have a weird feeling that this would change people a lot more because they would be scared to get a second one... should we have any compassion?!

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/docs/owi-penchrt.pdf

 

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rabbitslayer  3 stars
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jeune posted:

unless you have someone under 16 in the car. Just saw this and not sure how I feel. One side feels like drinking and driving is serious and should be punished... but I also feel like it is something that most people have done before. DWI convictions haunt people forever... and I have a weird feeling that this would change people a lot more because they would be scared to get a second one... should we have any compassion?!

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/docs/owi-penchrt.pdf


should be scared to get the first imo
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Hey Jeune, welcome back.

 

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Ptilk  4 stars
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If you've never driven while drunk, you've also probably never had sex with someone you weren't married to at the time.

In other words, you aren't normal and need to lighten up Francis.
Dark_EternalFF  4 stars
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Ptilk posted:

If you've never driven while drunk, you've also probably never had sex with someone you weren't married to at the time.

In other words, you aren't normal and need to lighten up Francis.



What about those of us who have better taste in women than you do? I mean, from what you've revealed, you pretty much seem to get the bottom of the barrel most of the time...

 

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Ah-Schoo  4 stars
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rabbitslayer posted:

jeune posted:

unless you have someone under 16 in the car. Just saw this and not sure how I feel. One side feels like drinking and driving is serious and should be punished... but I also feel like it is something that most people have done before. DWI convictions haunt people forever... and I have a weird feeling that this would change people a lot more because they would be scared to get a second one... should we have any compassion?!

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/docs/owi-penchrt.pdf


should be scared to get the first imo

Agreed.

 

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Banelord_FF  2 stars
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jeune posted:

unless you have someone under 16 in the car. Just saw this and not sure how I feel. One side feels like drinking and driving is serious and should be punished... but I also feel like it is something that most people have done before. DWI convictions haunt people forever... and I have a weird feeling that this would change people a lot more because they would be scared to get a second one... should we have any compassion?!

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/docs/owi-penchrt.pdf



I've had friends killed by drunk drivers and personally I think the punshments in many cases are far to lenient. I think there should be a minimum of a 6 month suspension of one's license for the first offense on top of the other penalties. Second time a minimum of 2 years, third time lose your license for life.

 

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rabbitslayer  3 stars
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Banelord_FF posted:

jeune posted:

unless you have someone under 16 in the car. Just saw this and not sure how I feel. One side feels like drinking and driving is serious and should be punished... but I also feel like it is something that most people have done before. DWI convictions haunt people forever... and I have a weird feeling that this would change people a lot more because they would be scared to get a second one... should we have any compassion?!

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/docs/owi-penchrt.pdf



I've had friends killed by drunk drivers and personally I think the punshments in many cases are far to lenient. I think there should be a minimum of a 6 month suspension of one's license for the first offense on top of the other penalties. Second time a minimum of 2 years, third time lose your license for life.

problem with that is, DUI is illegal, and that doesn't stop em, I don't think driving w/out a license be a hindrance at all.
Brother_Tempus  3 stars
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DUI is not a crime becuase there is no victim

 

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jeune  1 star
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Registered: 2005-5-29 13:25:11
Banelord_FF posted:

jeune posted:

unless you have someone under 16 in the car. Just saw this and not sure how I feel. One side feels like drinking and driving is serious and should be punished... but I also feel like it is something that most people have done before. DWI convictions haunt people forever... and I have a weird feeling that this would change people a lot more because they would be scared to get a second one... should we have any compassion?!

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/docs/owi-penchrt.pdf



I've had friends killed by drunk drivers and personally I think the punshments in many cases are far to lenient. I think there should be a minimum of a 6 month suspension of one's license for the first offense on top of the other penalties. Second time a minimum of 2 years, third time lose your license for life.



1st time offense you still lose your license for 6-9 months but just no jail time... it is treated like a violation until you get another... also if you kill someone or hurt someone you will prob be hit with vehicular homicide/other criminal charges.

I completely agree that for a 3rd time is you should never drive again... I just think a lot of young people get screwed who would never drive drunk a 2nd time. I do not think taking a license away from a habitual offender will stop them from driving either... it seems like they are the ones always killing people.

 

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