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Darwynnia  2 stars
Title: Sugar Kibbi
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Registered: 2003-10-13 07:40:13
Meh, someone else spammed my facebook newsfeed with this story.

Caramel food coloring has between 0.02-0.002% 4-Methylimidazole, according to Toxnet's sources. So if a 330mL can contains 3 grams of caramel coloring (I have no idea how much a can has) then there's 0.66mg in it. They don't mention how much of it was found in Coke or Pepsi, but if there's 47 ug in the others, then the math would estimate each can has ~ 0.3 grams (since .66 mg = 660 ug) of caramel coloring.

The reported adverse effects from oral doses on animals are at 360 mg/kg of 4-Methylimidazole (convulsions, etc). So comparatively speaking, there's very little 4-Methylimidazole in a soda. Heck you'd have to drink thousands of cans per day to be at a dangerous level. Plus, the halflife estimate for 4-Methylimidazole is 1.8 hours, with the excretion route via urine.

I'm not worried.

 

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myxomatosis8  3 stars
Title: amateur zookeeper
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Registered: 2001-7-14 23:45:21
Natoli posted:

I read an article that said the amounts they gave the mice to cause cancer would be equivalent to a human drinking 1000 cokes per day. I figure at that level, just about anything would cause cancer...

ETA: Actually, it's in that article, too...



Yup. If you give anyone 1000x the "normal" amount of anything ingestable in a day, I would pretty much assume it would cause cancer or other problems. Try eating 1000x the normal amount of Corn Flakes or organic carrots for weeks on end like the rats with that dye, see how your body reacts to that...

 

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myxomatosis8  3 stars
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DunesVladHarkonnen posted:

Doctors of ACF: I bought a Coke to have with my lunch

Will I die tomorrow?



You'll die in 1000 years. Maybe.

 

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the_great_ontex  3 stars
Title: This is what cool looks like
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Registered: 2012-2-13 18:38:12
This is why crystal clear pepsi should make a comeback

and Josta
DunesVladHarkonnen  4 stars
Title: Moderator
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Registered: 2003-3-29 22:10:08
myxomatosis8 posted:

DunesVladHarkonnen posted:

Doctors of ACF: I bought a Coke to have with my lunch

Will I die tomorrow?



You'll die in 1000 years. Maybe.



I'm basically immortal! Woooohoooo!

 

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tantallous  1 star
Title: Thought Police
Posts: 192
Registered: 2002-1-11 23:14:32
DunesVladHarkonnen posted:

myxomatosis8 posted:

DunesVladHarkonnen posted:

Doctors of ACF: I bought a Coke to have with my lunch

Will I die tomorrow?



You'll die in 1000 years. Maybe.



I'm basically immortal! Woooohoooo!



 

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-Kruugar-  1 star
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Registered: 2005-3-4 14:35:00
Varece posted:

Lanacan posted:

Varece posted:

Anyone remember Red Die #2?



Yellow Dye #5



We will be out of food dyes. Darn



Food dyes are dumb anyways...

I only care about the taste

 

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tantallous  1 star
Title: Thought Police
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Registered: 2002-1-11 23:14:32
thats what you say.. but you cant tell taste when you are standing there at the store.. you can see what it looks like.

 

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-Kruugar-  1 star
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Registered: 2005-3-4 14:35:00
tantallous posted:

thats what you say.. but you cant tell taste when you are standing there at the store.. you can see what it looks like.



Yeah, and it would all look the same if dyes weren't used.

Everyone just has a fake vision of what it should look like now.

 

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Hawkson  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-10-23 22:57:09
the_great_ontex posted:

This is why crystal clear pepsi should make a comeback

and Josta



I miss Crystal Pepsi.

 

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