| Author |
Topic:
Definition of a veteran. [Locked] |
ikkoikki Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2009-2-8 10:34:47
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Definition of a veteran. |
-Rally- posted:
ikkoikki posted:
You're not a veteran of combat. You're a veteran of something, but that something is not combat.
There is no distinction, either you are a veteran or you're not. I am a veteran of the United States Navy plain and simple, just like those in the Middle East will be when their time is done.
What do marines think of you navy boys who've never seen combat, I wonder. You're a veteran of swabbing the poop deck, but when we need someone to commit grisly murder with frightening efficiency we'll call the real veterans.
-----signature-----
Chicago Bulls: 43-13
post game gem from Joakim Noah: "We cannot play with our heads down and have a poo poo face. Sometimes we have a poo poo face."
|
-Rally- Title: It was a blast!!!!!
Posts: 202
Registered: 2008-7-3 20:09:59
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Definition of a veteran. |
ikkoikki posted:
-Rally- posted:
ikkoikki posted:
You're not a veteran of combat. You're a veteran of something, but that something is not combat.
There is no distinction, either you are a veteran or you're not. I am a veteran of the United States Navy plain and simple, just like those in the Middle East will be when their time is done.
What do marines think of you navy boys who've never seen combat, I wonder. You're a veteran of swabbing the poop deck, but when we need someone to commit grisly murder with frightening efficiency we'll call the real veterans.

by your definition of veteran they were not any "real" marines during my time, seeing as how we were not at war with anyone.
As far as what marines think of me? Go ask my Uncle who served in Vietnam, or my brother-in-law ( or is not a real Marine since he and served at the same time w/o conflict?
-----signature-----
Respect is earned,
Greatness achieved
and Legends created by others.
|
ikkoikki Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2009-2-8 10:34:47
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Definition of a veteran. |
Family doesn't count. My mother thinks I'm the most handsome guy in the world, and my father thinks I'm the smartest.
-----signature-----
Chicago Bulls: 43-13
post game gem from Joakim Noah: "We cannot play with our heads down and have a poo poo face. Sometimes we have a poo poo face."
|
Tai-Daishar_MT Title: Moderator
Troll Eradicator
Posts: 469
Registered: 2000-3-9 15:14:13
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Definition of a veteran. |
People really need to be more comfortable with themselves and stop worrying what others think.
-----signature-----
Fare thee well VN, Vini, Vidi, Vici!
|
-Rally- Title: It was a blast!!!!!
Posts: 202
Registered: 2008-7-3 20:09:59
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Definition of a veteran. |
I see now that your mind is made up and there is no changing it........... How about you sign up Ikk???? Do your time, go swab the poo deck as you called it and then get back to me. I was a GM for 3 years and a SP for 4-1/2. When you sign up I'll listen until then have a good and you're welcome.
-----signature-----
Respect is earned,
Greatness achieved
and Legends created by others.
|
ikkoikki Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2009-2-8 10:34:47
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Definition of a veteran. |
technically you may be right, but think about what the average person expects when they say "a veteran soldier". They usually mean a soldier who has seen active combat duty many times. 'Get me some veteran soldiers! No, I don't mean the ones who spent 8 years in the navy swabbing poop decks, I mean the grizzled military veterans!'
-Rally- posted:
I see now that your mind is made up and there is no changing it........... How about you sign up Ikk???? Do your time, go swab the poo deck as you called it and then get back to me. I was a GM for 3 years and a SP for 4-1/2. When you sign up I'll listen until then have a good and you're welcome.
Ok no problem. Thank you for allowing me to troll you today.
It's poop deck btw, not poo deck. You were in the navy for 8 years and you don't even know that? pffft
-----signature-----
Chicago Bulls: 43-13
post game gem from Joakim Noah: "We cannot play with our heads down and have a poo poo face. Sometimes we have a poo poo face."
|
-Rally- Title: It was a blast!!!!!
Posts: 202
Registered: 2008-7-3 20:09:59
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Definition of a veteran. |
ikkoikki posted:
technically you may be right, but think about what the average person expects when they say "a veteran soldier". They usually mean a soldier who has seen active combat duty many times. 'Get me some veteran soldiers! No, I don't mean the ones who spent 8 years in the navy swabbing poop decks, I mean the grizzled military veterans!'
Even though I never saw conflict, I have seen things that I wish I had never seen and done things I wish I had not, but when you sign up you do what is asked of you without question. I have been handed coordinates and told to fire, I didn't ask why, I said yes Chief, and fired. The military runs missions all over the world you will never know about, I guess those aren't conflicts, or active comabt duty either.
-----signature-----
Respect is earned,
Greatness achieved
and Legends created by others.
|
deadcactus Posts: 669
Registered: 2001-12-27 09:17:08
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Definition of a veteran. |
-Rally- posted:
There is no distinction, either you are a veteran or you're not. I am a veteran of the United States Navy plain and simple, just like those in the Middle East will be when their time is done.
I disagree. I'll be at 3 years in the military by the time the world ends in 2013. I have not deployed but like you have signed that blank check. That check entitles you and I to veteran status and the numerous professional, economic, and social benefits that entails.
However, the general public uses the term "veteran" in reference to a combat veteran. You and I are not that kind of veteran and it's asinine to pretend there is no distinction. Signing a check and watching the motherf--ker walk to the bank to try and cash it are two different things. I have no desire to misrepresent myself as someone who has actually been called upon to represent the US in armed combat...
-----signature-----
'member dat?
True dat.
|
ikkoikki Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2009-2-8 10:34:47
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Definition of a veteran. |
-Rally- posted:
ikkoikki posted:
technically you may be right, but think about what the average person expects when they say "a veteran soldier". They usually mean a soldier who has seen active combat duty many times. 'Get me some veteran soldiers! No, I don't mean the ones who spent 8 years in the navy swabbing poop decks, I mean the grizzled military veterans!'
Even though I never saw conflict, I have seen things that I wish I had never seen and done things I wish I had not, but when you sign up you do what is asked of you without question. I have been handed coordinates and told to fire, I didn't ask why, I said yes Chief, and fired. The military runs missions all over the world you will never know about, I guess those aren't conflicts, or active comabt duty either.
So doing what you're told just makes you a good dog, it doesn't make you a combat veteran. Give me a grunt, a good old fashioned grunt who has a knack for surviving firefights over a guy on a ship firing what is essentially long distance artillery. You're a cannoneer. In the olden days, the infantry and cavalry would march right past you to do the dirty work while you fire your cannons from afar.
-----signature-----
Chicago Bulls: 43-13
post game gem from Joakim Noah: "We cannot play with our heads down and have a poo poo face. Sometimes we have a poo poo face."
|
SLAgent Title: VN Artist
prolific sketchmonkey
Posts: 81
Registered: 2002-4-17 11:01:13
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Definition of a veteran. |
So firefighters are veterans
-----signature-----
"Sleeper Agent"
.
mercinary artist for hire
|
|