Isn't Warrior the only Worgan/Tank class? I think they'll get some love if they need it.

 

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DK as well. And Druid.

Ah you're right I just checked the race/class combos out. Do you have to wait a bit to be a DK? I find it wierd they are going to let Worgan start out a level 55.

 

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No waiting.

There will, quite literally, be millions of worgen death knights on launch day.

 

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You're forgetting the extra million Goblin DK's with their coolio SjB dance!


Actually the good players have already adjusted (pallies need a lead time again now too.) Some players never stopped allowing tanks lead time. Those are usually the DPS players who also play tanks.


I will admit, if I find a few warriors out here crying like babies about "nerfs", I will try not to feel good about how many of them acted like warriors were the ONLY tanking class. You guys in general chats in the Northrend zones claiming DKs aren't tanks... you know who you are.


Assuming there are issues: the rest of the warriors, like other players, who understand that nerfs and buffs come in cycles to all classes: /comfort and hang in there.


Like I've said at least once a week now for months: expect constant changes/adjustments in the next 6+ months after release.

Blizz has a lot going on and not everything is fully tested. (see thread about level 85 instances.)

 

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Yea, in Wrath as soon as the fight started (or even slightly before with a paladin tank) the DPS were free to go unleash at full blast, leaning forward in their chairs and screaming at the top of their lungs into the monitor to "go faster!".

 

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/hands Cawlin a hankie


I have 3 tanks and I've had to adjust with all of them and couldn't stand the changes at all at first. I still really don't like tanking on my DK much - their threat got mugged the worst and being forced to tank in a whacko blood spec after being frost forever sucks.


Of all the tank trees the warrior prot tree crushes. It's ridiculously packed with goodness so whining about warriors at this point is pretty silly. Every warrior player I know who sees the new prot tree wets themselves with glee and is going back to tanking - or at least talking crap about doing so. The number of people willing to tank these days seems lower than ever. Warriors can put out as much AE threat as any other tank these days - which all around is much less.


I've been telling dps in raids and even 5-mans to pay attention to omen and wake the hell up since they can't just unload everything 0.1 seconds after the tank pulls but most aren't getting it yet. Watching a few fights from corpse form ought to help with that.


I really have zero desire to suffer thru 2 hour instances that require meticulous pulling and CCing. Requiring CC here and there is great and putting some thought and strategy into instances is great but most instances have large volumes of repetitive trash and wading thru it forever is not my idea of fun.


Plus, you have millions playing WoW, most of whom can't form a coherent sentence and make morons look intelligent, all of whom have been trained to faceroll in a game that gets dumbed down and easier with every patch. And NOW they're going to make instances harder?


Fine with me, I have a clue - but the 90% of players who can barely figure out how to queue for randoms are going to be utterly screwed.

 

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Yeah, all the classes are basically "new" and require some adjustment. I hear you on the blood tanking. Why I went back to my prot pally. Probably not going to go druid tanking. And I still don't like my warrior, but that has nothing to do with ability to AoE tank.


Spooky has been saying: wait for it, they will dumb down the new instances. And he's probably right. (I use "probably" because for once, I hope he's not. )

 

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I have several tanks too, the only tank class I haven't leveled is a druid.

The warrior prot tree is not particularly better or worse than it used to be. There's nothing particularly great about it in terms of "OMG THEY FINALLY FIXED THIS!", it's all pretty much the same. The biggest drawback of the warrior prot tree is that you still have to choose between talents for tanking 5-mans and talents for tanking raid bosses. The only people who think that the warrior prot tree "crushes" now as opposed to prior to this patch are people who hadn't tanked on a warrior in WOTLK. With all the other changes to warrior mechanics the talent tree is not significantly better or worse - which I suppose qualifies as a blessing since after all, at least it didn't get worse.

Is one of your tanks a warrior tank? I find it hard to believe that you feel the warrior prot tree now is so much better than it used to be that it "crushes".

 

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@ OP:


just occurred to me, you might want to wander over to Tankspot and see what they've got to say.


I know on my pally, and several other prot pallies I've talked with, that we are having to make trade-offs in our talent trees (single target tps, ae tps, raid support and self-healing). And that we are also having to adjust and that DPS needs to go back to pre-WotLK group aggro management in AoE situations. I look for serious discussions / material on Maintankadin.


If you want a serious discussion about talent trees / glyphs, etcetera for warriors, perhaps Tankspot would be the place to go.

 

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