Holy turds man. Mobs in DM were laughing at my thunderclap yesterday. Has DPS been amped up or have taunts been nerfed? Some combination of the two? I tanked that same dungeon pre-patch (three levels lower) and it seemed much easier. Please tell me this is all in my head.

 

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All DPS classes lost their passive threat reduction and your AE threat generation took a slight dive. People have to wait a few seconds before DPSing again, its that simple.

Can you please help spread the word on this? Good god that crap was awful.

 

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I thought you should always wait a couple seconds before DPS'ing.. this changed at some point?

 

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With Wrath and its AE-a-thon.

I'm kind of glad I skipped all that. I quit the game just before Wrath was released. I actually had to cancel my pre-order. Just came back a month ago and I am going to just get to level through the Wrath content, but that is it. I prefer the CC playstyle, waiting for your tank to gain aggro before you pull, ect, ect..


I always bring up when UBRS was 15 man, I mean, it was a lot of fun. You had to CC all those dragonkin or you were going down. And you didn't attack the beast until the tank had a couple couple seconds on him..

 

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These changes are going to seriously alter a lot of playstyles. I had a tough time tanking DM yesterday. The mobs were acting like I wasn't taunting at all. Tclap was nearly useless in some cases.

 

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It should, I don't mind getting back to marking mobs for sap, poly, heck Ice trap. Remember that? 3 different CC's going and it was still a challenge to burn down the mobs before those CC's expired.


After your dps'ers are done CC'ing they may still wait a second or two before they start to burn down your mob, and it will again matter that they are attacking the mob you're on, not just AoE'ing the whole place.


I remember playing a mage back then, I only started my Blizzard when everything was already down to about 40% to finish them all off. If I did it too early, I got aggro and I had to Iceblock or die.

 

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CC is what gave the tank a few seconds of agro snap time. Once CC disappeared, so did that gap. It will be interesting to see players readjust.

 

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Heiro is correct.

Warrior AOE threat doesn't SUCK now, but it's not as good as it was (and even then it was the weakest and most difficult to make work of all the tank classes with respect to AOE - but was still quite viable and effective in the hands of a competent player).

Warrior AOE tanking also requires the cooperation of DPS - which won't actually happen for real until Cata is released and they start getting 1-2-shotted again in dungeons.

That said though, I suspect that Paladin, DK, and Druid tanking will be buffed to hell and back shortly after Cata releases due to complaints that they're no longer fire and forget easy mode tanks while Warriors languish in the basement of viability and warrior players make approximately 2.4 kajillion melty, angsty posts about quitting the game and asking for class respecs since they're (rightfully) being replaced in raids by tanks of other classes (this being one of those melty, angsty posts).

Right now, all tanking is pretty similar with respect to effort/ease/effectiveness, hopefully that will last. I doubt that it will though.

 

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