Funny

I usually start out now with a disclaimer. Learn to CC or die - I won't be held responsible for lack of adapting to the situation.

Its amazing how a great many DPS'ers simply can't follow directions.

 

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I wouldn't say anything in WoW was more dumbed down than it was in wrath. Seems they have hit their equilibrium.

The requirement to actually use your head in Dungeons now is a step away from that policy.

Its to bad the majority of the playerbase seems to have missed all the memo's from beta on this subject.

 

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Agreed. Though I can see there being people who have never used the method before, especially considering the playstyles in BC/WotLK being mostly AOE-fests. If they can't get the concept of LOS'ing casters after one explanation, though, good riddance.

 

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The healer was pretty good too. The dps all sucked.

 

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As long as we are telling grouping stories, I was grouped with a shaman that hopped all over the place, had a sexual oriented name and guild tag, and would pull when things went too slow for him, or aggro extra groups. I mean the guy was down right annoying at first sight. He was a good healer though, and would get quick heals on the dps when AE damaged us and such stuff. I swear he was like a gerbil on crack, but since he was a good healer, what the heck I can put up with it

 

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Did you just reference gerbils as a freudian slip?

 

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I think you might be in the gutter more than me. As I don't get the gerbil reference, sure I watched Lemmiwinks on south park, but I still don't get the reference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM9lpP51LPw

 

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I don't know that you can fault players in all of this.


CC was pretty much the bread and butter of Vanilla/BC dungeons. Remember MgT? CC on steroids! WOLTK threw all of that out with the new mantra "bring the player not the class", followed by dungeons with less trash, didn't require CC and were eventually available with two clicks of a mouse anywhere in the world on-demand. What came was people queuing as tank/healer to beat the timer who never tanked or healed before and the non-use of marks, since everything could be AoE tanked. I remember many times that people would get lost when they died in an ICC dungeon, because...gasp: they never been there in the real world before! Though I can't find the quote now, I remember a few years ago someone commenting on the lack of trash in heroics and someone from Blizzard commenting something along the lines of "what, you think more trash makes a dungeon more interesting? Many we should put loads and loads of trash in it then!"


Now comes Cataclysm and now the developers have had a change of heart. They went back from the 15 minute loot shoots to hard hitting trash that must be CCed(I have a trial account, so I have to go on the account of what other people are saying about the diffculty of the new heroics). That's one thing that really annoys the hell out of me is that just when I learn how to play my character, Blizzard completely changes it up the next expansion just to make it "exciting and new".


We learned in BC A and B didn't work so hot....we learned in WOTLK that C and D didn't work so hot...don't you remember reading this statement in the developer interviews every time a new expansion hits? It almost seems we have "bipolar" expansions: completely reverse what was done in the previous expansion! If my prediction is correct, we should have a "WOTLK" or "easy" expansion coming up in 2012.


Personally, I think Blizzard got it mostly right in BC (I still love Shadow Labs!). My guess for the next solution to this dungeon problem will be having the dungeon scale to the gear of the players. The better the gear, the harder the dungeon and the better the rewards. On this system, you could open up every dungeon for a level 90 and you would have your pick of 60 dungeons to choose to run.

they make dungeons too accessable to the masses with dungeon finder - anyone can queue up no matter how bad, unintelligent, unsocial, etc. that they are. to expect the majority of these pick up groups to be able to successfully handle anything challenging is ludicrous.


in the old days people knew each other and formed groups (usually from the same guild and that communicated via vent or whatever) so they had less problems. those that couldn't just never got to play that content.

all the H randoms i have been rolling i have noticed more bad tanks then good ones. the healers so far have been standing out.

 

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