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Queued for regular random. I am playing a Prot Pally in Cata so I get instant queued as normal. Join a dungeon in progress and it is Grim Batol. Warning flags go off as the original tank must have dropped and it is the trash packs right after the first boss.

So we get through the first easy trash pack and then the hunter in the group shoots the 2nd boss as it paths in our direction on accident. No big deal, I pick it up and we kill it easily. So on the next trash pack with 3 casters and the giant I tell the group I am going to line of sight pull it back and show them where to stack so the casters group up nicely. Well they do not listen of course and the casters are sitting back nuking away. I try to get them all corralled but its a nightmare. Neither the Hunter nor Mage bother to CC the casters, just sit there and get nuked. Both the Hunter and Mage die but we kill the trash pack. So the next identical pack I explain again where to stand so I can los pull them to us and group them up nicely. They of course don't listen and a repeat of the first trash group happens and then... I get kicked from the group. First time I have ever been kicked from a group. I lold.

 

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A guildy had a similar experience. All the DPS who put up with rage tanks in WOTLK are striking back now i guess.


The best part is that his group said to him right before they kicked him... "ou must have started tanking during WOTLK".


Thats our running guild joke now if someone messes up in an instance. You know if a dps gets themself killed, we go, damn healer what happened, did you start healing during wrath?!?!

 

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Yeah, I've been hearing horror stories like this from the game and various boards. I think people don't really know how to CC anymore, since WOTLK encouraged aoeing and DPSing stuff down as fast as possible.

lol I was just confused. At first I questioned whether it was me who messed up, as I don't have a ton of experience with the dungeon. It was only my 3rd time running it. But then I reminded myself that I just watched the DPS just standing there as they got nuked instead of trying to get the mobs to come to us via los or even cc the mob that was nuking them and then it was somehow my fault that they died.

The best part is I was leading the group in DPS and had 45% of the total damage done as the tank...

 

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I have instant queues, don't care if idiot DPS kick me.

So far it has been pretty easy on normals though.

 

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It's amazing how many (new) players do not know what "corner pulling" is. It's older than WoW.


and lol with Arunne. "started in wrath?" is now the new "got your license from a drugstore?"!

 

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I have started employing all my old tactics even as I level my Pally up. Maybe it will help some of these players I group with to get used to some of these tactics.


I was just tanking Stratholme the other day and I pull both the spider and the wraith boss around the cornder because they start with ranged attacks and If I run right up to the Zig I line of sight myself from the healer.


Most groups so far have liked these and various other old school tactics, have gotton quite a few compliments. Its funny, I'm using basic basic skills and these new players think they are some advanced magic tanking tactics.

 

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I've been playing a Worgen druid casually since I downloaded Catacylsm and for what it is worth I've queued as all roles since I escaped the starting area and although I would have expected to be tanking 90% of the time, it's actually put me as healing about 3 out of 4 times. More so the higher in level I go. Never has it ever put me in as dps to noone's surprise.(Side note: I've played the other 3 tanking classes to 80 etc etc, but druid tanking is by far the least fun, least interactive version in my opinion)


Healing seems to be the role noone wants to be stuck with anymore or maybe just people are so used to hearing about the instant queues as a tank more people have gone with that role. This is especially true for 80-85 play. Healing for the new levels does admittedly suck hard when everyone is still wearing their 80 gear, but not that bad once people have done some gearing up and if smart pulling and CC is used is actually right at that sweet spot of moderately difficult and not hair-pullingly stressful or mind-numbling dull.


As far as quality of play on the road back up from the beginning- Yes DPS 9 times out of 10 do everything they can to make it harder then it needs to be if not being borderline retarded. Tanks have been all over the place from full guild heirloom geared out using all abilities and pulling smart all while doing half total damage of the group that I don't need to do anything other then keep rejuvenation up on them to ungeared dps spec people that may or may not have a shield or a clue. Once I got up to DK starting levels with the druid its been lots of fun repeatedly trying to explain to all the worgen dks why they shouldn't dps in blood presence.


In a nutshell its been like this- Last night queued and immediately entered Blood Furnace as a healer, before everyone had loaded in the DK tank in mostly starter area gear ran ahead and pulled the entire 1st room and ran up the stairs to get more and died within 10 seconds while I had 3 HoTs on him and was chain casting healing touch/instants. So as usual I keep myself and the dps alive to kill everything else with no time to stop and revive him. Then he complained that he runs every heroic like that so what's my problem.


When I said, "yeah running trivial heroics at 80 in ICC raid gear is a different story." I was kicked. Which certainly made me happy as I was able to move on to a decent group and another level.


Long story short Cataclysm has sped up and dumbed down WoW even further still and yet WoW still takes too long and is too complex for about half the ADHD cases playing it.

We need more "I was the good player in a bad group" stories!!!

j/k sorry for your loss.

Bad tank is bad




So on a serious note : are we still the bottleneck for LFD? I was afraid that with the all healer complaints they would become more scarce.

I didn't even plan on queing up until I hit 85 and level BS/JC enough that I am ready for normals with self crafted gear.

 

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