consensus? Good for a few months of fun? Seems like the grind to 85 is relatively quick but how are the other grinds (rep,honor,gear, pvp titles, etc)?

Well, I've got nothing to do but Raid on my main already, so not much of a grind for gear/rep.

 

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People forget that cataclysm = both 80-85 content and new 1-60 Azeroth. Too used to the two previous expansion that were end-game content only. Well, like most mmo expansions hehe.

I lvl'd my priest in vash til 82 and decided to finish the mage instead. I have to say, Outlands and Northrend went by relatively fast. Think I went from 64-79 in 6-7 days. Queued for dungeons/bgs and ran autopilot between Archeology spots while studying.

Archeology isn't exactly fun or rewarding, other than being a supplemental source of experience like Herb/Mining. From what I've read, you stop getting skill points for the act of surveying at 100 skill, after that it's only from assembling artifacts. For the artifacts, there are some VERY nice rare ones, such as epic quality BoAs. I'm looking forward to the BoA's, not enjoying spending 15min assembling an artifact that sells for 5s. I could walk outside Orgrimmar, punch a boar in the face and make more money in 1% of the time. There should be some form of middle ground as far as rewards.

I think casual questers are going to have a hard time outside of a guild as far as using the DFT. My priest had a 5k gs (well above NR quest gear)when I started questing in Vash, she's 82 and still 2 ilvl away from being able to queue for the first two dungeons. That seems like a bit of a gap to me. Definitely excited to see the change in power my mage undergoes once I knock out those last 8 bubbles to 80. His gear is horrific, but I'm still dominating dps charts. Gotta say, after playing some of the more intricate classes in this game, it's nice to be able to sit back and press 3 buttons. Yeah three, I'm oldschool and I use CC liberally.

 

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I still have a long way to go to bring a stable of alts up to 85 and max tradeskills, but in terms of my main, I'm pretty much in leisure mode, healing when I feel like it. I'm not a big raider, so until we start moving through tiers, I doubt I'll see any pug raids, but that's not that big of a deal, just something to try out down the road. I may just begin building a gold base for kicks. I've always been a poverty-stricken kind of player, even when gold was flowing freely.

My only concern is that it took me a pretty long time to truly revile the WOTLK dungeons, and I'm already getting kind of bored of the Cata ones. I can't put my finger on why.


I think in the short term looking long, they're not going to be able to get away with quite as long a time between expacs after Cata (though if that leak is to be believed, they are planning that anyway).

 

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I enjoy progressing my characters to the level cap and then again via gear though the released content after the expansions. So until the Deathwing content comes out and I have gained most of what I want from that content gear wise I have plenty to keep me entertained. I only got bored with WotLk after I gotten most of the gear from ICC that was an upgrade aside from Heroic versions which didn't seem like worth the effort.

 

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I can already see where questing through the new zones will be extremely tedious on alts.

They are fun the first time through but like everything else, the 2nd time is "been there done that."

The new dungeons are ok, but grinding them over and over is going to get old far quicker than WOTLK.


I don't see this xpac lasting me anywhere near two years like others have had to.

 

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The 'grind' to 85?


I'm not doing anything, no will I, that I consider to be a 'grind'. I play for fun and enjoyment. That doesn't mean everything I do in the game is lights out fun, but when something becomes a grind - I don't do it.


Going from 80 to 85 shouldn't be a grind, unless you are somehow doing it wrong. Maybe you mean 1 to 85?

 

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I enjoyed the few weeks. Account runs out today and wont resub. Got my pally to 85 and got him a lot of heroic gear so Im ready for raids. Not ready to commit to raid yets so I leveled up my hunter to 83 and got his mining up and jc. Didnt see the point so I stopped. Ill be back in a few months once they had more stuff

 

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Might be because they are too long, too slow, and too boring and just barely moderately rewarding. Gone are the days when I would queue up for a dungeon if I wanted to have a quick bit of fun. Unless I have 2+ hours to sit there it's not even worth queueing. At least for me they just aren't any fun. This is still a game right? Do we still want to have fun?

--Sly

 

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