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formerly_addicted  1 star
Posts: 74
Registered: 2010-5-18 02:57:10
.... did rogues got the shaft since cata.

I feel my damage does not scale with the HP inflation or the healing in PvP.....

And when CoS is down im simply a free kill....

edit1: dont get me wrong, i dont expect to kill an enemy when he get healed but if i stay one o one against a healer i do expect -as a single burst damage class- to have a chance to kill him... this is not the case for me.

edit2: actually i have probs with most classes due to the HP inflation one o one. huge amount of HP along with alot of tricks to escape really makes it very hard...

 

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heiromancerdrackus  2 stars
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Posts: 274
Registered: 2001-12-24 17:04:55
formerly_addicted posted:

.... did rogues got the shaft since cata.

I feel my damage does not scale with the HP inflation or the healing in PvP.....

And when CoS is down im simply a free kill....



That is what was supposed to happen, to all DPS. The days of globaling are supposed to be dead.
formerly_addicted  1 star
Posts: 74
Registered: 2010-5-18 02:57:10
well, mages, locks and shamans, DKs and very geared warriors scale with the HP inflation imo.

 

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-Aleister-  1 star
Posts: 59
Registered: 2001-5-12 06:27:13
IMHO the problem with rogues is they had always previously been designed as a class that relied on initial burst. People asking for help against rogues were always given tips to help outlast those first 5-6 seconds. With HP inflation, those 5-6 seconds are no longer an issue. If the trick against rogues was simply outlasting the initial burst, and Blizz designed that ability into all classes... well the math is there.

Eventually Blizzard will have to give rogues some other sort of utility, because stealth won't be the advantage it was. If you are just going to play a melee class you may as well play one of the ones with much better survivability.

I'm not a rogue... I'm just someone who doesn't see any reason to be losing to them any longer. They are currently the class I most look forward to seeing in a BG separated from the pack.

 

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Spookysheep  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
Since DKs were introduced into the game, there is no reason to play a rogue, ever


Or warrior if you have the patience to gear.

Just play a DK and dual wield Frost spec your way to honor point goodness.

 

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Tai-Daishar_MT  2 stars
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Spookysheep posted:

Since DKs were introduced into the game, there is no reason to play a rogue, ever


Or warrior if you have the patience to gear.

Just play a DK and dual wield Frost spec your way to honor point goodness.



This was the conclusion I came to as well early into LK. I was busy leveling my Rogue to 80 when I tried a DK for giggles. My DK is now 83 and my Rogue is still where he was when I rolled my DK (I think it was 74).

 

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Voqar  1 star
Posts: 169
Registered: 2001-3-12 10:39:10
Blizzard does a lot of stuff well but PvP is the one area where they fail. Neato BGs and stuff. I guess people who like glorified dueling dig arena. But PvP has never been balanced worth a crap no matter what they do. It's hard to balance classes in a game of WoW's complexity, but if you're going to have competitive PvP with rewards, it has to be done.

 

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Ayadread  1 star
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Registered: 2006-3-15 11:24:05
The game is no longer about bursting someone down in a 1v1, although until more balancing is done it can still happen (insert random mage). You now have a heal, which can be used while stealthed. And your class, more than any other, can pick and choose when to attack. Quick picking healers or plate wearers. I'm all for balance to a certain degree. But if a lone dps could always kill a healer there would be no point to ever roll a healing class.


p.s. Healers are easier then ever to kill in Cata. Make them oom and game over. Well, healers besides a holy pally.

 

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formerly_addicted  1 star
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Ayadread posted:

The game is no longer about bursting someone down in a 1v1, although until more balancing is done it can still happen (insert random mage). You now have a heal, which can be used while stealthed. And your class, more than any other, can pick and choose when to attack. Quick picking healers or plate wearers. I'm all for balance to a certain degree. But if a lone dps could always kill a healer there would be no point to ever roll a healing class.

p.s. Healers are easier then ever to kill in Cata. Make them oom and game over. Well, healers besides a holy pally.



The problem is a rogue can not kill a healer due to inflated resillaince and inflated HP. No chance at all.

 

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Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
formerly_addicted posted:

Ayadread posted:

The game is no longer about bursting someone down in a 1v1, although until more balancing is done it can still happen (insert random mage). You now have a heal, which can be used while stealthed. And your class, more than any other, can pick and choose when to attack. Quick picking healers or plate wearers. I'm all for balance to a certain degree. But if a lone dps could always kill a healer there would be no point to ever roll a healing class.

p.s. Healers are easier then ever to kill in Cata. Make them oom and game over. Well, healers besides a holy pally.



The problem is a rogue can not kill a healer due to inflated resillaince and inflated HP. No chance at all.

I suspect there are a bunch of rogues that would disagree with you. Meaning, your statement should have been "bad rogues cannot kill healers anymore as a rogue's cooldowns no longer allow you to kill a healer in 4 globals." Please continue dying. Your healers appreciate your selfless sacrifice, noble rogue! /salute

 

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