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Rhapsedy Posts: 13
Registered: 2004-7-26 09:11:48
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Businesses go with overall sales, revenue, and subscriptions to judge success. If any company rated their success or failure from the amount of crying on a forum they'd all be doomed.
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Ardenwolfe  Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
Posts: 499
Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
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Rhapsedy posted:
Hey! You've upgraded from smarmy to a douche! Now thats moving up the ladder!
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Sociop Posts: 264
Registered: 2009-12-8 15:10:16
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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Rhapsedy posted:
Businesses go with overall sales, revenue, and subscriptions to judge success. If any company rated their success or failure from the amount of crying on a forum they'd all be doomed.
Not if the percentage of complainers is a direct correlation of the percentage of the playing population because that would me the overwhelming majority are not happy with the game.
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_Kewk_ Title: Sith Lord
Posts: 400
Registered: 2002-12-17 16:11:04
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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Trigeminal posted:
So I see this guy on TV promoting Cataclysm on some random computer gaming show and I just want to punch him in the face. Why would he bother me to the point where I risk breaking my TV? Osama Bin Laden, Kim Jong Il, etc. don't illicit this response from me. Why does some narcissitic punk from Blizzard upset me so much? I'm off to my therapy session. Catch y'all later.
You need to resolve your inner demons. For cereal.
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The_Korrigan  Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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Sociop posted:
Not if the percentage of complainers is a direct correlation of the percentage of the playing population because that would me the overwhelming majority are not happy with the game.
Really? Gamers are among the biggest whiners of the planet, the worst category being PvPers. Do you really think a company should worry because gamers whine on their forums, as long as they pay a subscription?
The only thing that talks is money. To pass a strong message, a large amount of people would have to cancel their account. Then yes, the devs will notice. But some whining on their forum? I bet they make a list of the most pathetic ones to laugh at them during their meetings.
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Ayadread  Posts: 66
Registered: 2006-3-15 11:24:05
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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Spookysheep posted:
I recognized this a long time ago, hence why I only tell someone if they are correct or if they are an idiot.
The funniest part is when the idiots try to get me to have "intelligent debate" with them, as any of those retards had the intelligence to grasp a point to debate.
Remember kids, VN boards are for entertainment purposes only.
The irony given your posts over the years is not lost, not lost at all.
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Sociop Posts: 264
Registered: 2009-12-8 15:10:16
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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The_Korrigan posted:
Sociop posted:
Not if the percentage of complainers is a direct correlation of the percentage of the playing population because that would me the overwhelming majority are not happy with the game.
Really? Gamers are among the biggest whiners of the planet, the worst category being PvPers. Do you really think a company should worry because gamers whine on their forums, as long as they pay a subscription?
The only thing that talks is money. To pass a strong message, a large amount of people would have to cancel their account. Then yes, the devs will notice. But some whining on their forum? I bet they make a list of the most pathetic ones to laugh at them during their meetings.
Perhaps, as much as I hate unions, this game being as large as it is needs a players union then the players could carry a lot of weight, the players could quite literally become the official Blizzard CEO's, it would be our way or no way.
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Cawlin  Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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Sociop posted:
The_Korrigan posted:
Sociop posted:
Not if the percentage of complainers is a direct correlation of the percentage of the playing population because that would me the overwhelming majority are not happy with the game.
Really? Gamers are among the biggest whiners of the planet, the worst category being PvPers. Do you really think a company should worry because gamers whine on their forums, as long as they pay a subscription?
The only thing that talks is money. To pass a strong message, a large amount of people would have to cancel their account. Then yes, the devs will notice. But some whining on their forum? I bet they make a list of the most pathetic ones to laugh at them during their meetings.
Perhaps, as much as I hate unions, this game being as large as it is needs a players union then the players could carry a lot of weight, the players could quite literally become the official Blizzard CEO's, it would be our way or no way.
While I am pretty sure you're joking, this argument is more to the heart of the matter than any other attempt at stating it has been thus far.
This isn't our game, it's Blizzards. We vote with our dollars, as such, we represent a collective bargaining unit with no legal, but certainly a very REAL recourse.
If you/we don't like what's going on, we "cast our union vote" by cancelling our subscription. That's where our "power" begins and ends, period.
The interesting thing about that is that without legal recourse, the players, as a collective bargaining unit face the very real implications of their decisions in a way that legally protected labor unions don't. If we decide to protest, the company is not obligated to compensate us and we have to live with our decision on our own. Blizzard will or won't listen to the players based on how much it impacts their bottom line.
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The_Korrigan Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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The problem, Cawlin, is that the "people" pretending to be unhappy to the point of canceling their subscription seem to think they are some kind majority, or at least big enough minority, to be able to have an impact. First thing that proves them wrong is actually that most of the times, THEM SELF are still subscribers.
Those people remind me the "there's been cheating, me, my friends, my dog, my canary bird, we all voted McCain, I don't understand how Obama could have been elected" kind of people. And yeah, they do exist. Thinking the world is limited to them and their relatives.
So... *shrug* 
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LOTRO: Lifetime account, playing very casually.
WoW: Both accounts canceled for now.
GW2: Future Warrior.
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Sociop Posts: 264
Registered: 2009-12-8 15:10:16
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
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Cawlin posted:
Sociop posted:
The_Korrigan posted:
Sociop posted:
Not if the percentage of complainers is a direct correlation of the percentage of the playing population because that would me the overwhelming majority are not happy with the game.
Really? Gamers are among the biggest whiners of the planet, the worst category being PvPers. Do you really think a company should worry because gamers whine on their forums, as long as they pay a subscription?
The only thing that talks is money. To pass a strong message, a large amount of people would have to cancel their account. Then yes, the devs will notice. But some whining on their forum? I bet they make a list of the most pathetic ones to laugh at them during their meetings.
Perhaps, as much as I hate unions, this game being as large as it is needs a players union then the players could carry a lot of weight, the players could quite literally become the official Blizzard CEO's, it would be our way or no way.
While I am pretty sure you're joking, this argument is more to the heart of the matter than any other attempt at stating it has been thus far.
This isn't our game, it's Blizzards. We vote with our dollars, as such, we represent a collective bargaining unit with no legal, but certainly a very REAL recourse.
If you/we don't like what's going on, we "cast our union vote" by cancelling our subscription. That's where our "power" begins and ends, period.
The interesting thing about that is that without legal recourse, the players, as a collective bargaining unit face the very real implications of their decisions in a way that legally protected labor unions don't. If we decide to protest, the company is not obligated to compensate us and we have to live with our decision on our own. Blizzard will or won't listen to the players based on how much it impacts their bottom line.
The way I see it Blizzard has put themselves in a vulnerable position by becoming a publically traded company.
Let’s say you got even two million or three million of the alleged 12 million subscribers to join said Union and they all threaten to quit unless their demands are not met. Due to Blizzards obligation to their share holders I really don’t think they would have any choice but to yield to the demands or at the very least cut deals with said union.
Thus I think a large unified players union would have them by their private parts not that it would ever come to fruition.
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