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_Kewk_  Title: Sith Lord
Posts: 400
Registered: 2002-12-17 16:11:04
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Got my mage into BRC this morning |
Arcilite_I posted:
Negative, regular.
lol?
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The_Korrigan  Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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Regulars are AOE facerolls. Try heroic.
Actually, try to AOE faceroll in an heroic... 
Ayadread posted:
The difference in damage taken between normal and heroic is pretty big. Example, first boss in Grim Batol I can just grab all of the adds (troggs) when they come and continue on tanking. On heroic, if the purple trogg is anywhere even remotely close to me when he blows up it's game over. Now imagine trying to get a LFD dps to kite and kill the trogg away from the tank...
On a difficulty level, I would agree that the new dungeons are all easy once you learn the gimmick and how to avoid the avoidable damage (which there is a lot of in cata dungeons). However, unless you're running with a dedicated group, it is damn near borderline impossible to find pugs (i.e. dungeon finder groups) with people who know how to avoid all of the avoidable splash damage. So if you run in a group where people don't stand in stuff, avoid dumb damage, and interrupt the boss abilities that MUST be interrupted, then yes it is very easy. Anyone who pugs a lot is going to have a hard time finding this on a regular basis.
This sums it up pretty well...
In my opinion, the heroic dungeons are quite well tuned, hard enough that any random PUG can't just jump in and AOE-faceroll them and that a dedicated group can have good fun. Some instances/bosses are harder than others too. I just hope Blizzard won't cater to the whiners and let them learn to play instead of nerfing the dungeons...
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Date Posted:
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lol wtf.. you bragged about this and it turns out it was normal. Monkeys can do normal.
Let see you try this on heroic with pugs. I dare you. Let see if you can successfuly do 4 random heroics in a row without issue.
I double dare!
Overall though heroics is not that difficult if the group knows the boss fights. Trash mobs are easy with proper cc'in. 2 or 3 cc make trash mobs trivial in heroic. Boss fights on the other hand are a different thing. 1 kill abilities, etc. Imo its up to the tank to know the fight and to let people know their role.
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Tank needs to know his job for sure.
but Healers also need to be on the ball...
and I LIKE that with the heroics, DPS also need to alert and "fast on their feet". Lazy dps days are gone (for now at least). Personally, I love the new heroics and hope they do not get dumbed down.
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Date Posted:
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Got my mage into BRC this morning |
Arc...regulars are very easy. When you get into heroics, I think you might be a bit (very slightly) frustrated the first few runs, especially with 329 geared peeps who dont know the dungeon/want to be carried.
I have an extremely great guild who runs heroics constantly, so its not an issue in the new dungeons for us but I can only imagine what DF groups are feeling.
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-Kruugar-  Posts: 210
Registered: 2005-3-4 14:35:00
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I think if we tell him that the problem is heroic, for the 10th time, we won't need anyone to do it anymore.
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Gidgiddoni Title: LGM Wordsmith
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Registered: 2001-10-11 12:09:27
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The problem isn't really heroic -vs- regular. Its PuG tards -vs- people who take a moment to explain something, or, better yet, guild groups.
If you have a good functional guild, that works together to do normals and gather some gear, then moves on to heroics ... then you are in a totally different game than the folks who PuG these things. Queues for normals as DPS can be 30-45 minutes, then you are tossed into a dungeon you might never have seen before. And, god forbid, anybody ask a question.
If you are lucky, you might get with a group where most of the people are something like patient. But don't count on it.
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Date Posted:
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-Kruugar- posted:
I think if we tell him that the problem is heroic, for the 10th time, we won't need anyone to do it anymore.
I only counted seven.
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Arcilite_I  Title: VN's Most Wanted
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Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
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Can anyone verify if heroics are harder?
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siujoey Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
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Arcilite_I posted:
Can anyone verify if heroics are harder?
I think heroics are harder than the regular dungeon versions. Just FYI.
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