^^ Of course, God forbid some 12 year old cant make an uber Gnome toon on the same server as his best buddie.... Cant have that.

The bottom line for people looking for drastic solutions to WoW pvp is this: either find another game that actually has pvp (eve), AoC? Or keep your fingers crossed that some day, maybe, a developer will create one that has some type of mass appeal.

Really all those options are either crappy (AoC really?) or unrealistic (new pvp based game).

I guess my point is learn to live with it or buy a ps3.

Sucks I know.

 

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EvE actually has great pvp. It does not lend itself well to the general public though. It requires a lot of investment in learning the game prior to any real pvp success. Some corporations train new pilots but even with the hand-holding a player can and will be lost for months. I'm actually tempted to return to EvE but I've passed the initial learning curve already.

 

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You sound really butthurt over DAoC, maybe you should vent your anger there instead of here.

To stay on topic, the idea is only good if you're going to apply it to the entire world. Otherwise it's completely counter productive to the concept of a PvP environment.

 

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Screw MMO pvp any more. League of Legends is all the pvp I ever will need again. Completely free with the option of spending some cash to unlock characters and buy custom skins for your favorite characters. MMO's can stay full tilt pve for all i care any more =D

 

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The problem I have with WoW PvP is that it's so goddamn predictable, and they've segmented the population so much that no one even knows what a challenge is any more.

There needs to be an alternate form of PvP for people who:
a) don't want to stand around and form an arena team to participate in highly regulated and predictable battles;
b) find the endless battlegrounds fun but again, predictable and eventually repetitive;
c) perhaps don't have the time to be online for Tol Barad or even Wintergrasp, or maybe they log on just after the fight is started or over;
d) don't get chosen even though they queue every time.

I suspect that last group is probably pretty large. Maybe they get lucky and get into one or battles a week. It would benefit WoW to have a large area where people can step into at will, and fight other players over some kind of landscape or objectives with a tangible benefit for all of the team holding the objective.

I definitely agree that once you are in the instance you stay in there regardless of who controls the entrance. And as for dailies not getting done? Are you crazy? They'll get done, but since it is defined as a PvP zone, if you want to do dailies then perhaps there are better options for you elsewhere.

What kind of argument is it that you shouldn't make a change for better PvP in a PvP zone because the PvE might suffer?

Not that WoW's level and gear systems are conducive to challenging PvP, any way.

 

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I remember epic AV battles. They'd start at 7:00 am before I left for work and would still be going by the time I got home. The wolfs, druids, big rock guy (forget name) would all get summoned. I don't even know why those "hand in" NPCs are still in the game. They never get used anymore. Drive-thru pvp doesn't work for me.

 

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Those were definitely the best memories I have of WoW pvp.. it was a blend of pve and pvp that worked perfectly as far as my tastes were concerned. The only thing that rivaled old AV fun for me was when my wife first started to pvp and she was learning in WSG. She'd carried he flag as a mage or run out for whomever was running the flag and frost nova the entire opposing team letting us get away. The game was completely different then. Fun is the word that comes to mind.

 

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Says the kid who recently canceled his WOW account. Maybe YOU should piss off from here, if you follow you own logic?
Oh sorry, I forgot you had none. Logic, I mean. Not sure you even know what the word means... it's all about "do what I say, not what I do", heh?

 

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Maybe you should piss off and stay on the official forums. Those of us who have played various games over the years and continue to post here don't do it because of the games themselves, of course I'd never expect an 'elitist' such as yourself to get that.

 

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You'd have one less reason to whine about WoW here if I left, I definitely don't want to cruelly remove that joy from you. I mean, if the elitists (aka, the "normal" players of the game) leave, what are you casuals (aka the "self entitled whiners", or "trolls" gonna whine about? The weather? They do that already at your local redneck pub. Nah, you need us. You couldn't conceive actually only posting on forums of games you like and play, it would not make enough sense for you, and more importantly, not leave enough room for your usual whining

 

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