To your 'harder' heroics idea. Still no.


If Blizzard made a "Insane Heroic" mode, with loot, and rep being exact same, except upon completing them you gained fluff rewards, pets, mounts, titles, that would be just fine. No one would complain, just like some of the achievments which are tedious and hardly fun at all.

 

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Just because a few people suck at heroics doesn't mean they should be dumbed down until everyone can AOE them in quest greens.

 

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Unless you're just trolling I request you use at least a moderate amount of common sense in your posts. If you are un able or unwilling to do so I'm happy to just disregard your posts as in essense that is what you are doing to mine.

 

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I know this is kinda old but I will answer.

I am saying that there is twice, at least, the content in Heroics than in Normals at level 85. So just saying that "baddies" should do Normals and not do heroics is cutting out a lot of endgame content for "scrubs".

 

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But they are far too stupid to do simple math

5 normals, 10 heroics.


Hmmmm, yeah, most players should be just fine with half the content, lol, inorite?


A wise man told them years ago "Never go full retard", but alas, they ignored that advice and now its too late to ever recover.

 

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Lol, Tropical Thunder ftw!

From imdb.com

"Kirk Lazarus: Everybody knows you never go full retard.
Tugg Speedman: What do you mean?
Kirk Lazarus: Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look retarded, act retarded, not retarded. Counted toothpicks, cheated cards. Autistic, sho'. Not retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off Nixon and won a ping-pong competition. That ain't retarded. Peter Sellers, "Being There." Infantile, yes. Retarded, no. You went full retard, man. Never go full retard. You don't buy that? Ask Sean Penn, 2001, "I Am Sam." Remember? Went full retard, went home empty handed... "

 

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Syrus, what more do you want from Blizzard? The game is as easy as any MMO I've ever seen. You have arrows that point the way to everything. You get rewarded even if you lose at PvP. You get experience from gathering. The prices for mounts is super cheap. Money is so plentiful, it's become meaningless. Gathering reputation in the classic lands is no longer a chore. Some quests chain without going to the originator. Elite NPCs assist you on certain quests. Mounts now port you on a quest chain to save time. You drive literal tanks to mow through mobs in some cases. And on and on and on. . . .


What more do you want?

 

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All those things you mention have nothing to do with player skill. And neither does the current difficulty with heroics.

If we didn't have the arrows, we'd find it ourselves, would that take more skill? No. More time? Some. Would it be more fun then? No.

The experience gained from gathering is insignificant at best. If it wasn't there, no one would miss it. I might have to do one more quest to hit max level otherwise. If it wasn't there would it take more skill to level? No.

If mounts were more expensive, if money was more scarce, would it take more skill to get mounts and money? No. Would it take more time? Yes. Would that make the game more fun? No.

All these things you mention that make the game easy, have nothing to do with player skill. They simply remove some of the tedium from the game.

Heroics are the opposite to this trend and it is not making better players, bad players are still bad, good players are still good. Does it take more time, more deaths, more frustration to get through these heroics? Yes. Does this make the game more fun? No.

Does it take more skill to get through these heroics? No. Just more patience. Myself and my guild will have no trouble with this content, but as I stated earlier, I play this game to have fun. I still find the current content fun, just a tad tedious.

Why isn't there a middle ground between face rolling and the unforgivable system we have now?

Have I suggested to "dumb down" the content? No.

Have I suggested to revert back to the way it was in Wrath so it took no effort at all? No.

What I have suggested is that the current system could be improved upon.

What do I want from Blizzard? I would like them to devise a way to add challenge to the game with out making it tedious or frustrating.

I want content that makes me think, and makes me react, forces me to build real skills in order to complete this content. Not too just build up a tolerance to tedious game play. Not to just have to take more time to complete a dungeon, that isn't rewarding for me, in fact its the opposite.

Am I asking too much? I suppose so. However that doesn't make the current system a good system.

 

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Yet the current system is also the world's bestselling system. A system copied in nearly every detail from copycat MMOs right down to the UI and mapping design.


That said, what do you suggest Blizzard do?


My point is the majority of the player base doesn't want to learn more 'skill', they don't want a 'challenge', nor do they want anything that makes them 'think' or 'react'.


They want the game as easy as possible. They want to be handheld all the way. And Blizzard listened loud and clear with the changes I mentioned.


That's why we see players in the endgame without a clue.


Believe me, I understand what you're saying. But, also believe me, Blizzard isn't listening to you.


They're listening to them.

 

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[Edit] Removed because I don't want to get into a semantics argument with elitists who think they are actually the majority when nobody knows exactly who the majority is except Blizzard

 

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