So I somewhat managed to reach the desired ilvl for heroic instance.
I play prot pally.

My first PUG heroic (and that was probably the mistake) was hc Shadowfang Keep.

I had a druid healer btw. We pulled the ghoul and the adds and, well, I did take serious beating. I know that is normal, but I was held on some ~25% hp. I have to admit I didn't fire up my 1mn 20% dmg migater at first. The healer was kinda slow, but lastly, she starting whining around and I insisted to go thinking "ah I don't have enough Def then".


I left and then just remembered, "There is no Def" -____-.

Is there some kind of other avoidance mechanic to negate instant death or do I have to roll my face on all CDs per trash group pull °°?

I'm not in a rush to do heroic instances but I figured I am lost in knowing when I am sufficient of tank and my healer actually being the problem.

 

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Might be gear issue. Avoidance is In today, I believe as pala tank you should keep dodge+parry within 1-2% of each other... gem for dodge/sta or parry/sta, reforge hit/exp to dodge/parry if you feel your threat is at comfortable level.

but you need hit / exp so you can hit the mobs and get agro.

 

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http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t110338-cataclysm_tanking_protection_field_manual_updated_jan_3_2011_4_0_3a/


Read it. You need tons of mastery, and expertise. Then uber dodge, parry, etc. You're shooting for the 102.4% avoidance still and it's MUCH harder to reach imo, especially with the changes to sacred shield and avoidance is MUCH more important now that here is no defense.


ilvl alone isn't a good enough indicator. Rotations are now more complicated as well, especially since your rotation directly affects avoidance. You need to have it down. I'm heroic "ready" according to ilvl but...yeah...still need some more work on my gear.

 

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When you can snatch the pebble from Korrigans hand.. then you will be ready.

j/k Good luck in Heroics!!

Horrible joke, he doesn't even play a tank class that takes skill lol

 

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my bad.. i didnt realize that he didnt play a skill class. how ironic

hey, I miss the old days where paladins were not accepted as tanks and you had to prove yourself.

Don't look at me, I didn't change the game. Big B did it

Thanks for EJ link. Didn't expect that one. I never trust ilvl, gearscore any other crap as it all depends on the "pilot".

 

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I was talking about Korrigan

 

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I see the kindergarten is out today...

This said, nope you don't need tons of expertise (it's even said in the EJ link btw), and hit neither. To the opposite, all "high end guild" tanks, Paragon and alike, totally gemmed/enchanted for avoidance (dodge/parry) and mastery. For heroics, definitely don't worry about expertise and hit, rather worry about survivability, you won't have threat problems, if you play your palatank correctly of course. Reforge the existing expertise and hit on items into dodge or parry when you can.

As a paladin, Mastery is great.

Have a look here for more info: http://casusb.guildlaunch.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6104495
It's great info for the Cataclysm Palatank. And the EJ link given above, too.

PS: have a look at the various reputation rewards to gear up too. There's pretty good stuff there, specially if you don't raid at all (epics).

 

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