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Author Topic: A view of where your class/spec stands DPS wise in raids. [Locked]
_Kewk_  2 stars
Title: Sith Lord
Posts: 400
Registered: 2002-12-17 16:11:04
http://www.stateofdps.com/

The caveat here is that while this chart my list you lower than you think you are; that is meaningless. This list is not 100% accurate but it should be damn near close. The list is a compilation of the top parses of WoL and ought to have the best players for their class and spec in it.

Sure you can beat tons of bad players or undergeared classes that are listed above your class but you won't likely beat equally geared/skilled players as you (classes listed above you). I.E. I beat everyone (Ele Shaman) in my guild other than a hunter and lock. I out gear and/or am a better player than those under me.

Also, yeah there are clases that have to snare, cc, interrupt etc. This inherently lowers your DPS and if that is part of your normal role than the state of DPS shouldn't matter much to you, as you are trading utility for DPS.

For clarification... I have nothing to do with this website so don't ask me any questions about it coz I can't answer them.
Cawlin  4 stars
Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Nice find... good info.

 

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siujoey  2 stars
Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
Wow maybe it is because of the teeny tiny sample size in BM and MM, but hunters seem to fall into 2 groups. (DPS-wise, ignoring utility)

1) Survival
2) Dead weight

Edit: The variance in mage specs is surprising too. They really gutted arcane mages, eh?

 

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Kriegprojekt  3 stars
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Sub Rogues too. No wonder my guild never wants me to DPS with my rogue now.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
siujoey posted:

Wow maybe it is because of the teeny tiny sample size in BM and MM, but hunters seem to fall into 2 groups. (DPS-wise, ignoring utility)

1) Survival
2) Dead weight



It's been that way since the game went live with respect to PvE damage.

In vanilla it was Marks and everything else was crap until the very very pinnacle of gearing where survival (after late stage talent tree changes) caught up and finally slightly surpassed Marks.

In BC it was BM >>>> all other specs in PvE for the duration of the expansion.

In WOTLK, Surv > MM >>>>> BM until you got to around 5k-ish gear score with enough Armor Pen to make Marks pull ahead. Even then, Marks wasn't superior in 5-mans due to mana inefficiency compared to Surv.


Basically there has always been ONE clearly superior spec for hunters in PvE for DPS.

 

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siujoey  2 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
Kriegprojekt posted:

Sub Rogues too. No wonder my guild never wants me to DPS with my rogue now.



The sub rogues number means nothing. Look at the sample size compared to everything else. Hell, look at the sample size on it's own- there are only 58 examples. With 1600ish- you should get a pretty decent cross section, not with 58.

On the other hand, maybe it says something about the state of the spec if no one is using it! (My rogue is 31, I have no idea, haha)

 

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portablehospital  1 star
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Registered: 2002-5-25 07:12:36
surv hunter or bust

 

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-MrBean-  2 stars
Title: Now With Extra Baldness
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Registered: 2001-5-23 14:15:00
There is no way arcane should be that low. Hell, no way arcane should be lower than frost unless those were crappy arcane mages who just stood there playing with themselves through half the raid.
_Kewk_  2 stars
Title: Sith Lord
Posts: 400
Registered: 2002-12-17 16:11:04
-MrBean- posted:

There is no way arcane should be that low. Hell, no way arcane should be lower than frost unless those were crappy arcane mages who just stood there playing with themselves through half the raid.



Uuhhh Arcane blows this expansion.
Cawlin  4 stars
Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
_Kewk_ posted:

-MrBean- posted:

There is no way arcane should be that low. Hell, no way arcane should be lower than frost unless those were crappy arcane mages who just stood there playing with themselves through half the raid.



Uuhhh Arcane blows this expansion.



Yes, as fantastically impossible as it may be to be believe, it's no longer a mark of skill to press one button and wait for a proc to press a 2nd and decimate the DPS chart - Arcane does in fact suck - rightfully so for all the difficulty it took to play.

 

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