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Demorak  2 stars
Posts: 300
Registered: 2009-1-16 11:20:55
Talehon69 posted:

Hunter's are leaps and bounds beyond any other DPS. They needed to fix it.



2k DPS on a few raid bosses is not 'leaps and bounds'. They needed minor toning down in PvE, that much I will admit. This only goes for ONE spec though, as the other two specs are bottom of the barrel trash for DPS. Even then, nobody is even remotely geared to compare DPS in a practical manner. Hunters scale very well early on with gear, but slow down dramatically.

The shot reductions(survival) originally proposed were horrible from a PVP standpoint, being that they are already subpar in PvP. Hunters don't even spec for their 31 point talent, due to it being so bad and dispelled with a simple button click.

Not only that. Blizzard posted that haste would now affect their two main focus generation shots...........which are already affected by haste. This was the main reason for the nerf. They give us a use for haste, but lower some of our damage. They proceeded to PR spin it after they got called on their screw-up and said they were going to make the haste calculations work like Slam for warriors. Yet if you notice now, the Slam change is reverted also.

@Grim

If they decided to nerf Serpent Spread, it would have a HUGE affect on the ability for a hunter to do some important AoE jobs in raids. The worms on Magmar fight being a prime example.

 

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_Taebo_  1 star
Posts: 184
Registered: 2001-2-28 11:37:14
Hmm.

I'm levelling my Druid right now, taking my time and she's 82.

My Hunter, who's been 85 since a week out of launch, is Survival and BM. I levelled with BM to 85 using a tenacity pet. I started off with Survival and with the crazy spawns early on it was rough. I saw those friendly bears in Hyjal and grabbed one right away. Switched to BM and it worked well. The AOE/Tenacity combo helped with the tougher mobs in Cataclysm.

For groups, it's been survival and now it's been nerfed big time. I was survival only in WotLK. I didn't even bother with the dual spec.

It seems like they can't make up their minds.

I can honestly say that I liked my characters/end game during WotLK more than now. I used to queue for dungeons, all types, in 10-15 minutes. Now it's 45-60 minutes.

I think they need to get Kaplan back....as much as I hate to admit it. If you noticed, he didn't work on Cataclysm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Kaplan_(game_designer)

 

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Sociop  2 stars
Posts: 264
Registered: 2009-12-8 15:10:16
Talehon69 posted:

Sociop posted:

Demorak posted:

I'm pretty sure Blizzard has no idea what they are doing with class balancing at the moment.


The reverting of half the Hunter changes alone should show that, after the s**tstorm it started causing on the forums.


At least I finally get to auto-shoot on the run making Aspect of the Fox useful in PvP now.



I am extremely ticked hat the Hunter nerfs, they are completely uncalled for! After the major change to the hunter class with the release of Cata having to adapt to these changes, basically re-learn the class and rotations, then have the idiots turn around and start nerfing is unacceptable.


You are right Blizzard has no idea what they are doing with class balancing, but not just at the moment, it is been an on going clusterblank since BC was released.


I think what really irks me the most is being at theses jackasses mercy if I want to continue to play this game. A friend of mine has suggested going to see a Bokor and have them put an honest to goodness curse on Greg Street aka Ghostcrawler. You know what I am seriously thinking about doing it,I know it might be some hocus pocus mumbo jumbo but just the sense of of getting some revenge for all the frustration and anger he has caused over the years would be worth the money.



Hunter's are leaps and bounds beyond any other DPS. They needed to fix it.



If anything SV Hunters are finally average, I have about a 7500 gearscore, most all of my gear including weapons are 346 or better and I average a tad over 7k in heroics which is really only 1k higher than I did in WotLK raids in frost and raid gear.


7k-8k is exactly what most other DPS classes are doing in Heroics at least the ones that I have been grouped with, though I have seen some rogues and mages hitting the 12k mark.


Then you have to remember most all new end game Heroic’s and other boss encounters require a lot of movement which unlike most all other classes is a real dps killer for Hunters. So if anything they need to hit a lot harder than other classes to make up for that loss due to excessive movement and still do their fare share of the DPS.

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