Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Wow, Dungeons are Hard!
Rill_of_WE posted:
IndridCole posted:
The next day we tried another random and got Stonecore. We wiped for 2 hours on the first boss before calling it quits. We did everything fine. But Blizzard's server seems to think people are standing in the boss dust when we're not. We lost one person every time to that. These are NOT stupid people. They move immediately. But either the dust cloud is too big or too small or the boss just doesn't allow for time-lag. I, myself got caught twice. I moved immediately with my Inner Will movement buff on. I was a good 10 yards away from the boss's dust cloud and still got killed. I hope it was just a bug.
I have gotten Stonecore 8 times doing random and no one ever gets past the first boss it is a fail and bail Heroic.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Wow, Dungeons are Hard!
The_Korrigan posted:
Rill_of_WE posted: We wiped for 2 hours on the first boss before calling it quits. We did everything fine. But Blizzard's server seems to think people are standing in the boss dust when we're not.
No. If you were killed by the worm when he's underground, you were NOT doing everything fine.
And of course, why am I not surprised that people blame the game instead of their inability to not stand in the fire...
Other groups kill the worm just fine. We killed him many times just fine. I guess someone must indeed doing "everything fine".
But don't worry, nerfs are coming, so every incompetent player can just faceroll his daily valor points, just like in WotLK, and stand on the mailbox with his epics.
Arcilite_I Title: VN's Most Wanted Posts: 1,260 Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Wow, Dungeons are Hard!
The_Korrigan posted:
Rill_of_WE posted: We wiped for 2 hours on the first boss before calling it quits. We did everything fine. But Blizzard's server seems to think people are standing in the boss dust when we're not.
No. If you were killed by the worm when he's underground, you were NOT doing everything fine.
And of course, why am I not surprised that people blame the game instead of their inability to not stand in the fire...
Other groups kill the worm just fine. We killed him many times just fine. I guess someone must indeed doing "everything fine".
But don't worry, nerfs are coming, so every incompetent player can just faceroll his daily valor points, just like in WotLK, and stand on the mailbox with his epics.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Wow, Dungeons are Hard!
nononono, dont ban him! It's try hards like him that make forums in general fun! It's even better when being #1 in Warcraft is the high point in his life and he's unwilling to admit it to the rest of us!
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Wow, Dungeons are Hard!
The_Korrigan posted:
Rill_of_WE posted: We wiped for 2 hours on the first boss before calling it quits. We did everything fine. But Blizzard's server seems to think people are standing in the boss dust when we're not.
No. If you were killed by the worm when he's underground, you were NOT doing everything fine.
And of course, why am I not surprised that people blame the game instead of their inability to not stand in the fire...
Other groups kill the worm just fine. We killed him many times just fine. I guess someone must indeed doing "everything fine".
But don't worry, nerfs are coming, so every incompetent player can just faceroll his daily valor points, just like in WotLK, and stand on the mailbox with his epics.
Congratulations, your condescension has now moved beyond annoying to somehow being humorous, delusional, and sad all at the same time. Well done, sir.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
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"Third, the game could do a better job of telling a group why they failed so that so much blame doesn’t fall at the feet of the healer."
Yes, I think what this game is missing is for the game itself to join in when PUGs begin throwing around blame for the last wipe. That should help. /straight face
Wow.
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kyrv Title: Lord Logicus Posts: 263 Registered: 2002-1-31 13:09:58
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
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Auenwing posted: My first reaction was also "tl:dr LP2"
Went back through it again and can at least appreciate that Blizz (via GC) has at least issued a statement about intent.
I personally don't care whether anything he said causes foaming-at-the-mouth fanbois to think they've been validated. (Those posters will always feel that, regardless of data, and are therefore easily dismissed as not providing valued input.)
Whether I personally agree with some of the things GC has as stated values/perceptions also doesn't matter. Or whether I believe that any Blizz employee has an ability to be truly unbiased about the customer experience.
They've stated their intent, values and perceptions.
Now we know.
Adjust or not accordingly.
PS: Spacelord: thank you for the post. Yes, it was very informative.
I don't like GC but I felt overall this was a very good post. Should settle a lot of arguing, they agreed with much of what players have been saying, and even gave tips/reasons for people that are failing.
They also admitted that healers are quitting. "How many is overstated". Well could you vague that up? Seems to me fewer healers which appears to be caused by arbitrary healer changes is a problem that needs to be addressed, not "well it's overstated".
And as much as "heroics are supposed to be hard" is not a satisfying answer, it's right. Again Blizz created the heroic entitlement, so they share much if not most of the blame for this. It's a pretty major bait and switch. Although, noob agains after the expansion think for some reason new 85's in new dungeons in PUGs should own it - that's not really realistic.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
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Arcilite_I posted: Can't someone just ban this asshole already.
Problem is, if they ban me, to be fair, they'd have to ban you and a few others too for regular trolling and baiting first.
Seems to me that you can't take it when someone serves you your own medicine.
First you guys are like "zomg Korrigan you won't stop me from posting lololol!" and then you want me to be banned... do what I say, not what I do, heh? Pot calling the kettle black?
This becomes more funny every day
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Rill_of_WE Title:WoW Vault Site Manager Posts: 557 Registered: 2002-8-6 09:16:33
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Wow, Dungeons are Hard!
kyrv Title: Lord Logicus Posts: 263 Registered: 2002-1-31 13:09:58
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Wow, Dungeons are Hard!
Zero_Washu posted: Whatever GC, your entire idea of challenge is nerfing healers efficiency to 25%, having mobs do gratuitous group damage, mobs whose damage is 360, mobs if you interrupt them simply start casting again, mobs you cannot interrupt, etc, etc. In other words, take a player ability to manage a mob and make it not effective.
This is not fun. Even in my large guild we only have two healers who will do heroics, and we peak with over thirty online at a time. All the rest are leveling alts. Hell, even the tanks are doing that, rerolling to alts. The idea is, wait till the next tier of gear comes out, saving your points, then go for heroics. Perhaps by then Blizzard will get a clue that spending over an hour for a pittance in points is not fun.
Well, he did say that. They would only get easier. I think that's the thing, they always get easier, so just do them later. Why kill yourself now in a PUG? GC kind of agrees.
