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Blisteringballs  2 stars
Posts: 272
Registered: 2009-8-12 12:41:21
That has to be the most pliable and kind post Ghostcrawler has ever issued to community ire to date, and from the developers point of view quite logical. However, it will still be interpreted as passive aggressive and rude by many players.

 

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-MrBean-  2 stars
Title: Now With Extra Baldness
Posts: 357
Registered: 2001-5-23 14:15:00
Blisteringballs posted:

That has to be the most pliable and kind post Ghostcrawler has ever issued to community ire to date, and from the developers point of view quite logical. However, it will still be interpreted as passive aggressive and rude by many players.



What the hell did you read?

The whole post starts with a sarcastic possibly even belittling title.
Blisteringballs  2 stars
Posts: 272
Registered: 2009-8-12 12:41:21
-MrBean- posted:

Blisteringballs posted:

That has to be the most pliable and kind post Ghostcrawler has ever issued to community ire to date, and from the developers point of view quite logical. However, it will still be interpreted as passive aggressive and rude by many players.



What the hell did you read?

The whole post starts with a sarcastic possibly even belittling title.



You kind of proved my point, though I wasn't trying to make one, just offering an opinion.

Edit: just because I said I found it to be his most kind post, doesn't mean that I didn't find parts of it obstinate. And such.

 

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st0rmie  1 star
Posts: 108
Registered: 2005-4-20 00:33:25
Cryme posted:

Can you use dungeon finder for 10-man and/or 25-man stuff too?


No. There has been some talk about such functionality being added, but at present, no.


Cryme posted:

I left very shortly after LK released, my playtime had went away and my guildmates were all 80 and progressing through content while I was still 74 or something, so that's when I quit. I've never experienced most of the LK content and would still like to. With everyone doing Cata stuff now, is there any chance I'll get to see the 10/25 man content of LK, or will I be relegated to the 5-man content I can experience through the Dungeon Finder?


Unfortunately, I would say that your only chance of seeing the LK raid content (or the vanilla or TBC raid content, for that matter) would be riding along with some level 85's smashing it for the achievements. Potentially there might be some "don't like Cataclysm" level 80 guild out there somewhere - I know there were vanilla guilds in the past.

 

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Anyone else find it funny that GC had to point out that people are pointing out things on the forum and is sick of it?


-Spacelord- posted:

Nice post from Ghostcrawler.


In Conclusion

We do understand that some healers are frustrated and giving up. That is sad and unfortunate. But the degree to which it's happening, at least at this point in time, is vastly overstated on the forums. We also know that plenty of players like the changes and find healing more enjoyable now. Both sides need to spend a little less effort trying to drown out the other side claiming that everyone they know -- and by extension, “the majority of players” -- agree with their point. You shouldn’t need to invoke a silent majority if you can make an articulate and salient point.



I had 150 people in my guild before Cata. There was hardly any spam in trade about how 'x' guild is recruiting. The release of Cata and the guild dropped to 43 people with no healers and no tanks within 2 weeks after release. Trade was being nearly spammed for recruitment of tanks and healers to the point of not being able to sell ore, herbs, and or skins before I /unsubscribed.


Now when 20 of the 43 left go to the forums to complain while 10 of thier buddies give up and leave, how is that an insane point? Granted not everyone was leaving but the majority of people they have known for years, and I mean years are gone. People that have gone from vanilla to cata and all of the nerfs, core rewrites, and mechanics of character play rewriten without leaving before.


Pointing out that there is a problem of people saying that there is a problem, and then saying there isn't a problem; while at the same time saying there is a problem is.... well..... an insane point isn't it?


Sorry had to ask.


GC summed up:


There isn't any problem you're playing wrong, here is how you play. I understand that your not having fun playing my way and that is a problem. Stop telling me you have a problem with how I want you to play. The problem isn't me, it's you for telling me there is a problem. Just pony up that cash and get your friends to play and or come back to play. You'll see that your the problem. Get over the fact that we've been doing things the right way for 6 years and decided to make a complete 180.
Spookysheep  4 stars
Title: Lieker of Cheese
Posts: 1,248
Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
Any time a developer starts trying to silence people on forums they are getting nervous, and usually get canned shortly afterwards.

 

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Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
Title: Ooo...bouncy!
Posts: 766
Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
Spookysheep posted:

Any time a developer starts trying to silence people on forums they are getting nervous, and usually get canned shortly afterwards.

Hopefully _after_ having an epic meltdown on the game's forums.

 

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_Taebo_  1 star
Posts: 184
Registered: 2001-2-28 11:37:14
They made it hard because there isn't a hell of a lot to do in this expansion. 5 Levels. No new classes. No alternate advancement (Titan's system canned). Unless you like rerolling level 1's and going through 1-60 again, there's a week work of levelling, even casually then it's 1 hour waits in queues, unless you a group on standby.

This expansion has to last 2 years, or at least 18 months and they've given us the least amount of content of the 3 expansions.

 

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IndridCole  1 star
Posts: 223
Registered: 2009-1-7 16:24:59
I'm curious: What was your expectation for the amount of time it would take to go from running normal dungeons to successfully running heroics?

 

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-Myk-  2 stars
Title: Not a War Criminal
Posts: 373
Registered: 2004-11-15 19:27:42
Tedious does not = fun.......some people here seems to think it does.

 

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