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The_Korrigan  Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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1/1/00 12:01am
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Should or Shouldn't Devs Read Their Forums? |
I guess you were too much in a hurry to flame me to actually understand what I was saying, and that I was actually siding with you...
The day some specific VN posters will use real arguments instead of childishly edit quotes in a desperate attempt to fit their failing agenda, I'll be amazed... looks like that day isn't coming anytime soon though. And the day their reading comprehension matches their trolling abilities, my jaw will drop on the floor for real I think.
Oh and btw warriors... don't forget to thank the PvP whiners for another nerf which is also, as a side effect, negatively affecting PvE. But yeah, developers should listen to forums... 
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Trigeminal  Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
Posts: 365
Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
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1/1/00 12:01am
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I guess I misread.
I do agree that forums are not the best place for developers to get information. I'm also glad the government doesn't listen to every hippy group that camps out on their lawn as well. I really like WoW. I'm trying as hard as I can to find a class that I can enjoy that won't have the playstyle mechanic changed so drastically as to become unplayable. Currently I'm sticking with my pvp warrior. I am running a few heroics and getting geared for pve so I can hopefully weather the change to raiding once the pvp nerf comes. The raid groups in my guild are asking me to join their roster. I guess I should just stop fighting for pvp and give into the repeated boss killing.
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Boone-Eldar Title: Infallible
Posts: 273
Registered: 2001-12-28 16:31:37
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Depends on the forum. Some fan sites are heavily moderated and have intelligent discussion on them, IE the EJ forums.
Others like the VN boards or the official forums I can count on one hand how many useful posts I have read on those boards in 10 years. If I was a developer why would I waste my time sifting through all the negativity to find them?
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Auenwing Title: straightface
Posts: 589
Registered: 2002-12-27 23:23:12
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1/1/00 12:01am
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Just for clarity's sake:
There is a huge huge gap between a developer reading a forum, understanding the customer experience and actually acting on it.
In that gap, there lives this concept called: discernment (e.g. acuteness in judgement).
It is the developer's responsibility to use that concept.
Blaming the 'whiners' is ludicrous.
The developer makes the final call.
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Ugh_Lancelot Title: Ooo...bouncy!
Posts: 766
Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Auenwing posted:
Just for clarity's sake:
There is a huge huge gap between a developer reading a forum, understanding the customer experience and actually acting on it.
In that gap, there lives this concept called: discernment (e.g. acuteness in judgement).
It is the developer's responsibility to use that concept.
Blaming the 'whiners' is ludicrous.
The developer makes the final call.
Fair point. Especially when one man's whiner is another man's champion.
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Trigeminal Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
Posts: 365
Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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WoW would be much easier to deal with if it was PVE-only or PVP-only. Many changes to classes are horrendous to one person (ie. me and intercept/charge change) while another would shrug them off (someone who only does pve on their warrior). They will never keep the game balanced in both pve and pvp... yet they try.
I'm hoping Rift doesn't do this. I hope they don't have monthly patches adressing "imbalance." Sprawl pointed out in another post (and I agree) that classes deemed OP in Rift will be countered by another class combination somewhere. That puts the power into the hand of the player.
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Date Posted:
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Trigeminal posted:
WoW would be much easier to deal with if it was PVE-only or PVP-only. Many changes to classes are horrendous to one person (ie. me and intercept/charge change) while another would shrug them off (someone who only does pve on their warrior). They will never keep the game balanced in both pve and pvp... yet they try.
I'm hoping Rift doesn't do this. I hope they don't have monthly patches adressing "imbalance." Sprawl pointed out in another post (and I agree) that classes deemed OP in Rift will be countered by another class combination somewhere. That puts the power into the hand of the player.
So, because you cannot perma stun someone with your warrior anymore PVP is broken?
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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The_Korrigan posted:
Trigeminal posted:
I should have clarified. They may "play" but they don't pvp.
And yet, still a ton of nerfs (and notably in recent changes) come from PvP whining... so I seriously doubt your theory. Their shitty "eSport" crap still ruins parts of the game for those who couldn't care less about PvP.
Why the hate on PVP Korrigan?
Had your ass handed to you one too many times by some "anti-social-casual" ???
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Trigeminal Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
Posts: 365
Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
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GutterSludge posted:
So, because you cannot perma stun someone with your warrior anymore PVP is broken?
Nope. They could remove warrior stuns completely. They could nerf the damage. I'd still be happy. I found the mobility an enjoyable part of the class. Take the stuns, take the damage... at least let me reach people once in awhile so I can swing. I'd still be gimp but I'd feel like I was part of the fight at least. These changes will turn arms warriors into waddling (snared) pengiuns.
Many pvp warriors (myself included) will respec to fury simply because they have the ability to remove snares and reset intercept cooldown.
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Spookysheep  Title: Lieker of Cheese
Posts: 1,248
Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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GutterSludge posted:
The_Korrigan posted:
Trigeminal posted:
I should have clarified. They may "play" but they don't pvp.
And yet, still a ton of nerfs (and notably in recent changes) come from PvP whining... so I seriously doubt your theory. Their shitty "eSport" crap still ruins parts of the game for those who couldn't care less about PvP.
Why the hate on PVP Korrigan?
Had your ass handed to you one too many times by some "anti-social-casual" ???
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