| Author |
Topic:
Rift [Locked] |
Thericia  Posts: 115
Registered: 2002-1-8 10:43:06
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
Rift |
Ayadread posted:
Sadly, I don't think there will be another pvp game that can match Daoc during its prime.
Agreed!
(now I know the world is ending, in 1 thread, i have agreed with Arc and Ayadread!)
*covers head with a book*
-----signature-----
- There is no such thing as a perfect game. If you make a game idiot proof, someone will just make better idiots.
Deepstrike (PvP) Server - Guardian
|
The_Korrigan  Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
Rift |
DAoC was a PvP game? 
I though Mythic themself called it "RvR", which is basically "level to max in safety and then kill others in canned PvP spots".
-----signature-----
SWTOR: 50 Jedi Shadow (Tank), 50 Sith Marauder (Annihilation).
LOTRO: Lifetime account, playing very casually.
WoW: Both accounts canceled for now.
GW2: Future Warrior.
|
Trigeminal  Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
Posts: 365
Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
Rift |
The_Korrigan posted:
DAoC was a PvP game?
I though Mythic themself called it "RvR", which is basically "level to max in safety and then kill others in canned PvP spots".
They had BGs that were level-restricted but they also had large "world" zones that allowed both leveling areas and pvp. It was also objective based wherein holders of the relics had bonuses given them. Some of the best leveling areas were in these pvp zones.
-----signature-----
PvPing since 1975
|
The_Korrigan Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
Rift |
There's more PvP on a WoW PvP server than there ever was in DAoC (except possibly Mordred, but we know how well that server did). At least past level 20, you aren't safe anymore, and you have no choice but to "risk your life". In DAoC, you could just chicken out in safe places until you were level 50 and over-geared.
But I guess different people have different definitions of "good PvP"... for some, canned RvR is the best thing ever. Most UO / AC1 veterans seem to think differently, though. For me, DAoC was just as bad, if not worse than WoW's PvP on a PvE server. Worse because it was way more unbalanced than WoW has ever been. At least WoW delivers "canned PvP", but attempts to balance numbers on both sides.
-----signature-----
SWTOR: 50 Jedi Shadow (Tank), 50 Sith Marauder (Annihilation).
LOTRO: Lifetime account, playing very casually.
WoW: Both accounts canceled for now.
GW2: Future Warrior.
|
Errtuu Posts: 70
Registered: 2003-6-27 14:07:28
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
Rift |
The_Korrigan posted:
There's more PvP on a WoW PvP server than there ever was in DAoC (except possibly Mordred, but we know how well that server did). At least past level 20, you aren't safe anymore, and you have no choice but to "risk your life". In DAoC, you could just chicken out in safe places until you were level 50 and over-geared.
But I guess different people have different definitions of "good PvP"... for some, canned RvR is the best thing ever. Most UO / AC1 veterans seem to think differently, though. For me, DAoC was just as bad, if not worse than WoW's PvP on a PvE server. Worse because it was way more unbalanced than WoW has ever been. At least WoW delivers "canned PvP", but attempts to balance numbers on both sides.
Ummm. "PvP" on WoW PVP servers involves a lot of gray ganking and very fiew fair fights. That has little to do with skill, communication, organization...
DAOC RvR was about large scale battles with objectives that impacted the realm. Sure, it wasn't perfect (balance was always an issue), but it was fun... and realm pride existed. Wow is instanced BGs where you capture a flag (like Unreal Tournament derp) or PVE the final boss. Even the DAOC BGs were pretty incredible--all the server's characters in that level range were in the same place waging epic battles and assaulting and defending the keep.
I really didn't intend to derail a pretty good RIFT discussion with my nostalgia /facepalm.
|
Vifirth Posts: 10
Registered: 2004-3-9 00:22:49
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
Rift |
Korrigan (AKA TheTroll) never has anything positive to add to anything, well except his post count. Alot of good info, thanks to the posters that checked out Rift and are filling in others.
-----signature-----
Rift - 50 P8 Rogue Shafted, P7 50 Warrior Lugnuts, 50 P8 Cleric Dococ, 50 P8 Mage Akafotm
DAoC 70 various level 50 toons, Best PvP todate
SWTOR 50 BH, 50 Op, 45 Sin, 46 Sorc, 34 Mur, 45 Sniper
|
jojo263 Posts: 164
Registered: 2003-6-18 14:03:47
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
Rift |
"you could just chicken out in safe places until you were level 50 and over-geared"
hahahaha man this had me cracking up. over geared in daoc lol
btw the only time WoW had any good pvp was when the game came out and every was leveling at the same time. pvp servers are pretty much pointless in WoW.
-----signature-----
Get armed
|
Auenwing Title: straightface
Posts: 589
Registered: 2002-12-27 23:23:12
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
Rift |
Errtuu posted:
The_Korrigan posted:
There's more PvP on a WoW PvP server than there ever was in DAoC (except possibly Mordred, but we know how well that server did). At least past level 20, you aren't safe anymore, and you have no choice but to "risk your life". In DAoC, you could just chicken out in safe places until you were level 50 and over-geared.
But I guess different people have different definitions of "good PvP"... for some, canned RvR is the best thing ever. Most UO / AC1 veterans seem to think differently, though. For me, DAoC was just as bad, if not worse than WoW's PvP on a PvE server. Worse because it was way more unbalanced than WoW has ever been. At least WoW delivers "canned PvP", but attempts to balance numbers on both sides.
Ummm. "PvP" on WoW PVP servers involves a lot of gray ganking and very fiew fair fights. That has little to do with skill, communication, organization...
DAOC RvR was about large scale battles with objectives that impacted the realm. Sure, it wasn't perfect (balance was always an issue), but it was fun... and realm pride existed. Wow is instanced BGs where you capture a flag (like Unreal Tournament derp) or PVE the final boss. Even the DAOC BGs were pretty incredible--all the server's characters in that level range were in the same place waging epic battles and assaulting and defending the keep.
I really didn't intend to derail a pretty good RIFT discussion with my nostalgia /facepalm.
YOU didn't. Somebody else did. And it's not worth worrying about. /comfort
Back on track, I'm downloading the beta now as I post (got my invite last night). Just gotta figure out how to schedule time... 
-----signature-----
There are those who play tank classes, and those that tank.
The weapon is only as good as the person wielding it.
Free advice is often worth what you pay for it: nothing.
|
KainetheDragoon Title: Ravishing Rogue in Rouge
Posts: 37
Registered: 2002-4-13 18:00:11
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
Rift |
I preordered the collector's edition today because it came with free gametime anyway and hopefully a guaranteed beta invite.
I have 3 days off during the next beta phase (25 on) so I think I'll be able to get a good grasp.
-----signature-----
Live from Telara
Rhapsodie: Æ’unky Æ’resh
Jumping out from a Rift near you!
Rhapsodie LvL 50 Rogue - Alsbeth - Nightblade/Riftstalker/Bladedancer
Eleison LvL 15 Cleric - Alsbeth - Mr Mister would be proud.
|
Boone-Eldar Title: Infallible
Posts: 273
Registered: 2001-12-28 16:31:37
|
Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:04am
Subject:
Rift |
I am having major Deja Vu reading this thread. I swear I have read the exact same conversation before.
-----signature-----
Seriously?
 |
|
