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The_Korrigan Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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siujoey posted:
It's a lack of effort, plain and simple. Anyone can be "good" at WoW.
Apparently not. 6+ years after release, there are some players who are still lost as soon as an heroic encounters involves more than a tank and spank fight.
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WoW: Both accounts canceled for now.
GW2: Future Warrior.
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siujoey Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Luck of the Draw Buff |
Broken_Kayfabe posted:
All mmorpgs give an opportunity to demonstrate better play. Only an idiot would think otherwise.
The difference with WoW is it rewards you either way. Special little snowflakes shouldn't have their egos bruised by there being "winners" and "losers". Everyone's a winner!
(even the guy who fell down at the starting line, started crying, and was taken off field for his mother to wipe his nose. Don't worry, siujoey, you're still a winner to us!)
Thanks for your sympathies, luckily I have my wrecking ball achievements to wipe my tears with. Just because I don't think punishing everyone is an acceptable change to dealing with afk/bots doesn't mean anything beyond that. It is a lazy solution to an annoying problem. They don't reward winners and losers EQUALLY. If you got 100 honor for entering the BG and everyone got the same, you might have a point. What you are saying is that the guy who has entered 8 BGs and carried his team every single time should get the same amount of honor as someone who never even logged on? Yeah, how have the devs never thought of this brilliant system before?! Perhaps they all have common sense, that might be the hold up. Don't worry though, even if other players have access to the same pixels you have, you'll always be my special little snowflake.
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siujoey Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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The_Korrigan posted:
siujoey posted:
It's a lack of effort, plain and simple. Anyone can be "good" at WoW.
Apparently not. 6+ years after release, there are some players who are still lost as soon as an heroic encounters involves more than a tank and spank fight.
And you're explanation is that WoW is so hard that some people just don't have the talent for it? I think I will go for the more understandable: they just don't care enough to make an effort to actually learn their class and it's abilities.
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The_Korrigan Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
Luck of the Draw Buff |
siujoey posted:
And you're explanation is that WoW is so hard that some people just don't have the talent for it? I think I will go for the more understandable: they just don't care enough to make an effort to actually learn their class and it's abilities.
No matter if you're right or wrong, it still shows that not "everybody" can be "good" at WoW. Some suck at it and will always suck past very basic stuff, no matter the reason why, be it laziness, lack of skill, or talent, or whatever you call it.
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SWTOR: 50 Jedi Shadow (Tank), 50 Sith Marauder (Annihilation).
LOTRO: Lifetime account, playing very casually.
WoW: Both accounts canceled for now.
GW2: Future Warrior.
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Malachi256 Posts: 158
Registered: 2002-11-12 17:33:28
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Luck of the Draw Buff |
At this point, all the decent players have already seen the content and geared up / wised up to the point where it's all easy anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
Now we can run our alts through with the LFD system and not be worried about PUG woes.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
Luck of the Draw Buff |
siujoey posted:
Just because I don't think punishing everyone is an acceptable change to dealing with afk/bots doesn't mean anything beyond that. It is a lazy solution to an annoying problem.
Not being rewarded for failing a task is not "punishment", though I do understand most overly entitled people, whether it is today's special snowflake youth, seniors who think the world owes them their heart's desire, and yes, mmorpg casuals, all seem to think it is.
History demonstrates that if you aren't rewarded for failure, you tend to get BETTER. You think it's a coincidence the easiest mmorpg also has the worst players?
Will the people who either can't or won't put forth the effort to get better fall out of the system? You betcha. I don't know how they will ever manage to get over their jealousy of those who did put forth that effort - it was the over entitled casual players whining that put WoW into this situation in the first place, and somehow I doubt their ability to whine is any different than their ability to suck - above and beyond the average.
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Five more minutes then I'm done!
I've been saying that to myself since
...yesterday.
- from "Has anybody seen my corpse". Man Everquest rocked back in the day...
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st0rmie Posts: 108
Registered: 2005-4-20 00:33:25
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
Luck of the Draw Buff |
siujoey posted:
st0rmie posted:
What's your explanation for persistent failures if not lack of talent? Is it a physical disability?
It's a lack of effort, plain and simple. Anyone can be "good" at WoW.
Fair enough. You can rewrite my original reference to "catering to over-entitled and under-talented players" as "catering to over-entitled players who refuse to make an effort" and I'm equally happy with the statement.
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