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Voqar  Posts: 169
Registered: 2001-3-12 10:39:10
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heiromancerdrackus posted:
I gotta say, I definitely was starting to feel my Shaman lagging behind in healing. Particularly now that getting a tank with 180K+ effective health is common, it took a lot of healing for me to fill that guy back up.
Agreed. I put my resto shaman on the shelf waiting for something to change. My druid does way better and my priest and pali healer guildies are doing fine. Resto shaman mastery doesn't do anything for me, and that's a factor too.
I still think healing is fine overall if you know how to play - and play with others that know how to play.
For ex, I pug my raid-ready druid into heroics all the time. If the tank is a moron, doesn't use CC and still thinks it's northrend, I'm usually gone by the 2nd or 3rd pull. I could probably heal it, but it'd be misery and I have a low appreciation for stupid. There are some epic geared tanks around now that can faceroll instances, but it's more likely you get a nublet that can't let go of the northrend past.
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Rezzinu Posts: 185
Registered: 2004-4-17 10:20:46
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Date Posted:
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Sociop posted:
Here is the problem with WoW;
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The cost of Power Word: Shield is being increased by 33%. While we wanted Discipline priests to be able to utilize this spell more often and with better results, we also did not want[u/] it to be the main spell (and often the only spell) used while in groups. We don?t find this to be a particularly compelling playstyle and have found that it encourages players to avoid using other spells such as Penance. We believe that using a shield in a tight moment is totally appropriate, but we don?t want it to be incredibly efficient to do so with more frequency than that.
The arrogant jackass dev's have made it about what "they" want and what "they" think, or what "they" believe when it never has been nor ever was, nor ever should be about them, what they want or what they believe!
What the customer wants, what the customer thinks or what the customer believes should be the only thing that matters, instead they are sitting on the customer twisting their arms forcing them to comply with how they (the dev's) want them to play.
I think they (the dev's) have lost complete sight of their roll as insignificant servants of their customer and believe they are gods whose job is to command some 12 million players.
And the sad part is, people are still paying the developers salaries via $15 a month (x12 million).
It's amazing to see the difference between two game's developers. Any MMO and WoW. WoW doesnt give a damn about the customer anymore because they have what they want. They have already become rich off of you so they do what they want with the mentality of, "It's our way or GTFO." While any other MMO developer listens to their playerbase understanding we, the players, chose the path of their success.
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_Kewk_  Title: Sith Lord
Posts: 400
Registered: 2002-12-17 16:11:04
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Rezzinu posted:
Sociop posted:
Here is the problem with WoW;
And the sad part is, people are still paying the developers salaries via $15 a month (x12 million).
It's amazing to see the difference between two game's developers. Any MMO and WoW. WoW doesnt give a damn about the customer anymore because they have what they want. They have already become rich off of you so they do what they want with the mentality of, "It's our way or GTFO." While any other MMO developer listens to their playerbase understanding we, the players, chose the path of their success.
Great example. No really. Put up all the failed and currently failing MMO's against the industry leader and say the failed devs are the ones who got it right. LOL. Do you guys even think before you type?
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-Peo- Title: Caveat Lector
Posts: 408
Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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_Kewk_ posted:
Rezzinu posted:
Sociop posted:
Here is the problem with WoW;
And the sad part is, people are still paying the developers salaries via $15 a month (x12 million).
It's amazing to see the difference between two game's developers. Any MMO and WoW. WoW doesnt give a damn about the customer anymore because they have what they want. They have already become rich off of you so they do what they want with the mentality of, "It's our way or GTFO." While any other MMO developer listens to their playerbase understanding we, the players, chose the path of their success.
Great example. No really. Put up all the failed and currently failing MMO's against the industry leader and say the failed devs are the ones who got it right. LOL. Do you guys even think before you type?
He is right though. The team in charge of specs/builds/talents/characters is HORRIBLE. They are slowly screwing up the game more and more. The game is fun despite all the terrible development, because some of the basic tenets of the game that made it fun for all these years are still there. GC is just a bad Dev, he doesn't know what he is doing, he is a hypocrite and he is arrogant. The worst possible combination of a game developer. The rest of the game is still fun, albeit old and a little tired, the character development is just garbage. In WotLK, I felt that character game play was better than it ever was, until GC starting making changes, the game play of characters since then has gone downhill steadily.
I took a 4 months break. And just recently came back, I am enjoying the game, despite the terrible mess that character play is in, daily hotfixes tells the story. We shall see how long it remains fun.
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slythetove Title: Julie's Pool Boy
Posts: 146
Registered: 2001-11-7 11:12:56
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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_Kewk_ posted:
Great example. No really. Put up all the failed and currently failing MMO's against the industry leader and say the failed devs are the ones who got it right. LOL. Do you guys even think before you type?
Actually...
DAoC's death warrant was signed once they decided they knew better than the players.
EQ's was the same. See also "The Vision"tm
SWG was the same.
Once a developer decides that they are going to force you to play the way they feel you should play in spite of thousands upon thousands of complaints it's all down hill from there.
--Sly
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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When I clicked on the thread I thought I was going to see that they understood how bad they made it for healers and were doing some major fixes. Instead I get this trash. Very disappointing. I'm not sure what they are thinking or if they understand what they are doing. There clearly seems to be a disconnect.
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Spookysheep  Title: Lieker of Cheese
Posts: 1,248
Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
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Some of the top fortune 500 companies in history have gone out of business due to delivering what they want instead of what the customer wants.
I guess blizzard uses a planned obsolescence model, which may be the most economical thing to do in the mmo gaming world. Or, they are just plain stupid.
I guess time will tell.
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Azure-TheBlueOne Title: Made in Alaska
Posts: 319
Registered: 2003-2-24 19:25:37
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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I agree with Sly, once a developer pulls the 'vision' card, it's been pretty much downhill from there. Add CoH and Jack Emmert to that list.
In the case of WoW though, I just can't see this 'vision' lasting as long as some other developers' have. This playerbase is just too big, vocal, and casualcore.
Although, it has gone on a bit longer than I thought it would. OTOH, it's pretty obvious that there's smoke under the hood when they start giving out a 15% bonus to abilities for queuing... not to mention the numerous updates on how we should be viewing/enjoying their 'vision' instead of complaining.
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Zero_Washu Posts: 290
Registered: 2001-9-28 05:17:03
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
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So lets see, Disciplines Mastery is for their shields and now Blizzard says that that spec relies on those same shields too much and in turn nerfs them by jacking the mana costs. Did I get that right?
Well I guess that shields were just too good. The proper change would have been to weaken the mastery. The T11 bonus requires hitting a shielded character, or at least one with the debuff associated with having been shielded. Who in the hell works in development these days?
They are apparently hell bent in enforcing their new model regardless of what players want to do. I am going to assume that shields are just too good in Arenas, let alone raiding environments. They are allowing a well played Disc Priest to scrub off too much raid/burst damage which was possible due to innervates being directed to them in raids. Should be interesting to see how many handle the new mana costs.
Regardless, it simply comes down to yet another curb stomp by developers against players who adapted to what they were handed but apparently adapted incorrectly.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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As a Discipline priest since vanilla WoW, this latest patch has been a real rollercoaster.
I feel like Kate Beckinsale invited me over for a night of unbridled passion (her words, not mine), then when I got to her place she proceeded to strap on a Big Black and bent me over her Bentley...
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