Yay... A few minutes ago i ended up in a group for hc stonecore. It was a run in progress, i should have known better and just left. The tank was so damn dumb. 4 wipes on Ozruk. Amazing. We went through the simple procedure over and over again and tank said "okay" every time. Epic failure. Yes, they are too bloody hard for a pug because a pug consists of players you're never going to see again.


Some runs are smooth as hell while others are a nightmare. Yes, it is blizzards fault for making them harder than their "average" player can handle.


Maybe 2-3 content patches from now we're back at "wotlk" but yeah, that would be for the better compared to the crap going on right now. The queue times are just insane i mean come on, that would be like a big red light blinking one might think. But oh no. Just ignore it blizzard.


Its just so fun to have spent 40 minutes in a queue, end up in a "in progress" group and you know the group is going to fail and you're getting nothing but hefty repair bill.


Remove durability hits when doing 85 heroics pugs might be a thing they should consider. That might make a few people actually stay in the group, even if its bound to fail.

 

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To level it in a group in a dungeon. I wasn't aware that it was a difficult concept to parse. Not all of us were so socially inept and functionally retarded as to not be able to get a dungeon group before the LFD tool was put in to help you mouthbreathers learn to tie your own shoes.

 

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Again with a good team of ppl who know how to play there class then no heroics are not hard but for ppl you know who work,have kids,or any sorta social life and can only play for short time periods it is very hard not to have to reply on the lfd after all thats what it was put in for to begin with remember? Problem is you get 1-2 bad players in your group its like ramming your heard into the comp monitor.

Too those who say well get a guild or team with only guild not that easy either if your time is limited to begin with they cannot be expected to be on when you can or drop what they are doing just because your on.


For all of you who feel raids content in cata is faceroll thats great but for the rest of us who are at the mercy of the lfd tool it isn't so much fun.

Dude do you really wanna hurl insults at people calling them social inepts when your play WoW like it is your life? This is like the highlight of your life WoW and how great in your mind you are in a game that has no bearing whatsoever in life other than to you and the tards like you.Throw some more Eq quotes in your profile and continue to strive to live our your accomplishments in a game that you dream about while your working the drive thru at mcdonalds and getting your ass kicked after leaving the annual Trek convention.

Wow it's like a monkey somehow managed to get online and found the VNBoards...

Here, just for you:

 

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The irony of a third rate troll calling other people socially inept made me chuckle, thanks for this post.

Terrible. 0/10, would not read again.

 

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Well for most of vanilla WoW, the following were raid "dungeons":

LBRS, UBRS, Scholomance, Stratholme, BRD - pets would get virtually zero experience in raids - you could run some of them as 5-mans for the completion of quests and whatnot, but when you were doing that most people expected a group that was "running on all cylinders" so to speak and so it was less likely you'd get folks to run them with you just to level your pet.

That left left the following for 5-man-only dungeons at level 60:

Dire Maul - which wasn't even released in the beginning of vanilla WoW - and which, for the first several months after release, people weren't willing to take hunters into, fearing lack of utility or damage from hunters. Only guilded hunters got invites to DM from their own guild members in those first few months.

Here's a little timeline for you - I went and looked up the patches and such.

November 2004 - WoW released in the US
March 2005 - Dire Maul Released
April 2006 - Scholo, Strat, BRD reduced to 5 players max, LBRS, UBRS reduced to 10 players max
Dec 2006 - pre-BC patch released
Jan 2007 - BC released

So for the majority of classic WoW - over 16 months out of the just over 25 months of its duration there was one "5-man-only" dungeon option widely available for max level characters.

Further, here's a little flashback to pre-BC WoW: I started a warrior back then because even though I was guilded for about 2/3rds of pre-BC WoW, I could never find a tank to run a dungeon.

Remember how warriors were the only tank back then? Yeah well that meant that any warrior that wanted to, and could reasonably play a tank, was guilded. It also meant that said tank didn't really have to run 5-mans because they were guaranteed a raid spot. This created a massive tank shortage in PuGland - remember how Paladins and Druids were finally rendered capable of being reasonable tanks right after BC to help ease the tank shortage? Yeah...

PuG dungeon runs were hard to come by, and were typically done as raids for most of classic wow.

Further, it's kind of absurd to say: "Well all that crap that you had to deal with with the stupid pet paradigm was no big deal for a hunter because if you just were willing to rely on a group, you could then develop a key fundamental aspect of your class - unlike every other class which didn't rely on groups for fundamental aspects of their class." (and no, a mount is not a fundamental aspect of your class lol)

 

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Cawlin,

I would like to add, for those who don't "remember" coughcough...that to even GET abilities on your pets we had to go to insane places, train some useless pet, and level it until you as the Hunter "learned" that skill.

Which you could then finally teach to your "real" pet...

Then add that many of these "skills" were only available on rare spawns, and with half of those being in enemy territory..

 

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HOLY CRAP! Haha, I forgot entirely about that man! I don't remember skills on rare spawns so much, but I do now remember having to train a certain wolf to get the highest rank of bite and whatnot.

Thanks for reminding me about this crap!

 

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