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Sprawl-zero1eye-  4 stars
Title: IGN Vault Staff
Reziztance iz Futile

Posts: 1,001
Registered: 2002-6-28 03:39:29
How do you feel about this?



I don't like the idea for some reason. I just haven't figured out why... perhaps because it dumbs down what I consider an important decision? Not sure...

 

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Rill_of_WE  3 stars
Title: WoW Vault Site Manager
Posts: 557
Registered: 2002-8-6 09:16:33
Well, personally I know I will never use it. As a guild leader LFM nor as a player LFG. It just doesn't give me enough information for the kind of guild that I would be looking for. I like long-term guilds. I like guild's that have a friendly, clean atmosphere. I like guilds where the environment is conducive to making lasting friendships that go beyond the game. That's not really something you can dumb down to availability and what role you play.

On the other hand, I can see how this would work for other guilds who really do just come together to do stuff like raid or pvp. They have no other purpose for their guild but to clear content or get top rankings. So they wouldn't need any other info than what this tool would provide.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
It won't stop the guild recruitment spam in trade chat so it seems like a waste of dev time to me.

 

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Dums  1 star
Title: Moderator
The mystery flavor

Posts: 248
Registered: 2002-10-29 08:17:13
Rill_of_WE posted:

Well, personally I know I will never use it. As a guild leader LFM nor as a player LFG. It just doesn't give me enough information for the kind of guild that I would be looking for. I like long-term guilds. I like guild's that have a friendly, clean atmosphere. I like guilds where the environment is conducive to making lasting friendships that go beyond the game. That's not really something you can dumb down to availability and what role you play.

On the other hand, I can see how this would work for other guilds who really do just come together to do stuff like raid or pvp. They have no other purpose for their guild but to clear content or get top rankings. So they wouldn't need any other info than what this tool would provide.



Not true. A top raiding guild requires much, much, much more information about an applicant than that tool can provide.

 

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Sprawl-zero1eye-  4 stars
Title: IGN Vault Staff
Reziztance iz Futile

Posts: 1,001
Registered: 2002-6-28 03:39:29
Need a box for gear score!

 

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kuide  1 star
Posts: 106
Registered: 2004-11-1 08:23:04
Top guilds are a minority(not important),this tool will be useful.
Quazimortal  4 stars
Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
kuide posted:

minority(not important)



Lol! Oh really? I think a lot of people might disagree with you on that one.

 

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PallyDog  3 stars
Title: WoW Vault Staff
Teh Pyckles!

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Registered: 2003-3-4 07:09:21
I thinkt he tool will be useful for soem but still not impressed with it. Kind of handy for those shy types.

 

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Hornet_MT  1 star
Posts: 103
Registered: 2002-8-16 11:16:25
Quazimortal posted:

kuide posted:

minority(not important)



Lol! Oh really? I think a lot of people might disagree with you on that one.



"Not important" - well, people in those guilds wouldn't think so...


"Minority" - IMO, a fairly accurate statement...


From my own server (Outland - EU) - we have a Horde population of ~18,000 (source: Warcraft realms)... I cannot say what the activity rate on that is, how many are alt's, etc...


70 guilds have downed a raid boss in Cata, of which only 8 have downed all raid content. Lets say the threshold for a serious guild is half raid content... thats ~40 guilds. Some will be 10 man, some 25 man, assuming 50:50 split - 600 people are serious about their raiding and 40 guilds are 'serious' guilds (I think this is being generous).


Assuming the 18,000 comes down to 1/3rd after removing alts and non-active, hence 10% have completed half the raid content - that is a minority of the population.


All of this is 'back of an envelope' and without doubt full of assumptions (correct or otherwise), but the point is, the majority of the population are not in a serious raiding guild. And whilst there will be those in serious PVP guilds or "friends" guilds, I bet there is a large portion of the population which really doesn't care much about guilds, but can see the benefits of being in one (especially with guild perks)


Hence, I agree think the tool will be useful for the majority of the population! But completely useless to serious guilds.

 

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Sociop  2 stars
Posts: 264
Registered: 2009-12-8 15:10:16
Quazimortal posted:

kuide posted:

minority(not important)



Lol! Oh really? I think a lot of people might disagree with you on that one.



Once upon a time they were but in Wrath when mere pugs were able to successfully do much of the same top end content the elite guilds were doing their eliteness was tarnished considerably and for the most part just became another guild.


However due to the apparent difficulty in the new Cata Raids those elite guilds may be on the rise again.

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