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The_Korrigan  3 stars
Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
Oh yes, just like those guys who watch sport on TV, comfortably installed in their couch, working on increasing the diameter of their "beer belly" while pretending they can do better than the professionals on the screen...

 

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Spookysheep  4 stars
Title: Lieker of Cheese
Posts: 1,248
Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
Can always count on VN to produce retarded analogies.

Every time lol.

 

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Unstruck  2 stars
Posts: 260
Registered: 2004-3-24 18:59:13
The_Korrigan posted:

No matter how arrogant a developer can appear to be, it seems that players will always beat him to it... nothing like armchair developers on gaming forum pretending they would do better than professionals



I can kinda agree with that.

Yet, whether you're a video game professional, a bank professional, a retail professional, or a professional parent, there is a diplomatic/humble way to deal with your customers/clients/offspring, and a defensive/arrogant way. Blizzard has been veering toward the latter lately.

It's quite noticeable when you take into account all the recent changes to the game and their responses to customers who are voicing their concerns about said changes.
Sprawl-zero1eye-  4 stars
Title: IGN Vault Staff
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Posts: 1,001
Registered: 2002-6-28 03:39:29
The_Korrigan posted:

Oh yes, just like those guys who watch sport on TV, comfortably installed in their couch, working on increasing the diameter of their "beer belly" while pretending they can do better than the professionals on the screen...



You are absolutely right.

Doesn't mean you don't humbly listen to feedback, even if you end up ignoring it. Getting defensive, it is just bad for business.

 

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Broken_Kayfabe  1 star
Posts: 248
Registered: 2002-2-16 01:05:01
LadyGodiva. posted:

To be honest, I think some armchair developers *could* do better. There's no MMO school or degree for vision and design... either you get it, or you don't. The Dr. title means nothing.



Yep. 100% truth. There might be a few devs with MBAs or something who know how to deal with employees or work with budgets better than the average joe, but in developing mmorpgs? No.

The average fan wouldn't do very well at it either, but the subset that actually does understand what makes RPGs work certainly could do better on the mechanical side than anyone at Blizzard has demonstrated to date.

GC is a glorified

 

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PlieBrac  2 stars
Title: Ok, who did this?
Posts: 254
Registered: 2002-10-30 12:50:08
i smell a fanboi

 

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Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
Title: Ooo...bouncy!
Posts: 766
Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
PlieBrac posted:

i smell a fanboi


It is a rather pungent and immediately recognizable odor, isn't it?

 

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The_Korrigan  3 stars
Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

Doesn't mean you don't humbly listen to feedback, even if you end up ignoring it. Getting defensive, it is just bad for business.

Oh, you are right, and Blizzard definitely needs an humility lesson. Sadly, it won't be Trion giving them that either. Let's hope Bioware can, and as I said ages ago already, I still firmly believe it's the only existing company that can finally give Blizzard a run for their money.

There are two things I agree with you guys (those who manage to argue without resorting to childish insults):
1) Team B is definitely not as good as Team A. You can feel it's not the same people in charge, and the quality, while still remaining good (and sadly better than most other MMORPGs), dropped. We get more recycled content too, and less innovation.
2) GC is arrogant. He definitely is. That doesn't stop armchair devs who never touched something as complex as a MMORPG and who pretend they would do better to be ridiculous too.

Anyway, the best way to send Blizzard a message if you think they deserve one is to stop pay to play. I already said it several times, that's the only kind of message that kind of company listens to. Sadly, a small minority canceling accounts won't have a big enough impact on them to teach them humility. So the market definitely needs a game GOOD ENOUGH to significantly dent WoW's player population. Sadly, such a game is not that easy to make, because even with the drop of quality due to Team B, WoW is still miles above any competition. I will be the first to applause the developer who managed to achieve such a feat, though.


Ugh_Lancelot posted:

PlieBrac posted:

i smell a fanboi


It is a rather pungent and immediately recognizable odor, isn't it?

It doesn't smell half as bad as assholes though... most of the infestation seems to have moved to Rift forums, but there's some leftovers...

 

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Isoke
Posts: 36
Registered: 2002-4-26 06:35:31
I guess I'm in a minority. I like GC and wish he still posted regularly on the boards. And I am saying this as someone who is not happy with the current state of the game. But that has nothing to do with whether or not I want to see GC continue to post.

He's arrogant. He's not always right. Gods know I don't always agree with him. But I appreciated his straightforwardness and his willingness to get into detailed discussions with players. He's clearly got really strong development skills and a wealth of experience (EVEN IF we don't like the way he applies them), and he clearly likes talking about development issues. It was a really refreshing change from the watered-down and generic content of most 'official' dev posts.

Ah, well. Back to 'vetted' and bland posts that (to me) seem far more patronizing toward players than GC ever was. Blogs. lol.

Honestly, I don't think the player base is actually willing or able to handle genuine debate over development questions.
The_Korrigan  3 stars
Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
Spot on, Isoke, spot on!

 

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