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I'm not surprised at the poll results. Once some of the power-posters here on the boards voiced their opinions on how they felt Cata ruined the game, the sheep started to follow along.
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Azure-TheBlueOne  Title: Made in Alaska
Posts: 319
Registered: 2003-2-24 19:25:37
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Because we always agree so often and so wholly here on the VN's... 
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-Peo- Title: Caveat Lector
Posts: 408
Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
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Turumbar-HG posted:
I'm not surprised at the poll results. Once some of the power-posters here on the boards voiced their opinions on how they felt Cata ruined the game, the sheep started to follow along.
You may want to watch who you call sheep, most of the fanbois have full wool coats and bleat quite a lot.
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Quazimortal  Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
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Date Posted:
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Azure-TheBlueOne posted:
Because we always agree so often and so wholly here on the VN's...
I chuckled. 
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Boone-Eldar Title: Infallible
Posts: 273
Registered: 2001-12-28 16:31:37
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kyrv posted:
Boone I applaud you for both your change in philosophy and your willingness to discuss it.
That's awesome. 
I kind of see it as - I've proven I can do 'hard' content, now I just want to have fun. Maybe that's too simplistic.
lol not really a change in philosophy as more of an acceptance of the direction Blizzard took. The changes were going to happen regardless of whether I agreed with them or not. It wasn't a big enough deal as to dissuade me from getting WotLK and I found that the changes actually fit my busy lifestyle better than the old one did so it ended up working for me. I was able to see most of the content by the time the next expansion came around, while playing a portion of the time it took in previous expansions.
I was not concerned about the changes in Cata, as I had seen plenty of change in WoW having played it since release. However after having tried it out I found that I did not enjoy the game enough to keep playing. I had become accustomed to being able to playing a casual play style where I was able to pug whatever I wanted, pretty much whenever I wanted and it could be done in a reasonable period of time.
Not really a big deal though. I have been playing MMOs since UO released and frankly I have become a bit bored with them in general. Maybe I am getting old but I just don't have anything in common with the people/kids playing MMOs these days. I have found that if I want competitive online play I will play a FPS and if I want to play a RPG I will play something like Dragon Age.
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TruthyID  Posts: 189
Registered: 2010-7-7 12:52:20
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Date Posted:
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The_Korrigan posted:
I think people complaining about the supposed difficulty of the heroic dungeons have long term memory problems, and don't remember how those dungeons were in TBC and even in WotLK when they started, wearing crappy quest gear, wiping in HoL, Occulus or UP. They got too used to the "easy mode" artificially created during WotLK by the careless distribution of epic gear which progressively turned 5 man dungeon a mindless faceroll.
This is patently false. In fact, you can still finds threads over at MMO-Champion from as far back as the WotLK beta in which people were concerned that heroics were too easy even in early stages of beta with only blue quality gear.
What happened with Cataclysm went well beyond a simple gear reset, they intentionally made the dungeons harder and more time consuming. For me it wasn't the difficulty that was the problem as much as it was the time investment. Waiting 40 minutes to get into a 2 hour dungeon is just ridiculous.
WoW stopped being something that I could do for 45 minutes or an hour after a long day to relax so I've taken my money elsewhere, as have all of my family and friends that played.
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Tai-Daishar_MT Title: Moderator
Troll Eradicator
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Registered: 2000-3-9 15:14:13
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Date Posted:
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Turumbar-HG posted:
I'm not surprised at the poll results. Once some of the power-posters here on the boards voiced their opinions on how they felt Cata ruined the game, the sheep started to follow along.
Hard to believe someone that has been here so long actually believes this 
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Date Posted:
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TruthyID posted:
The_Korrigan posted:
I think people complaining about the supposed difficulty of the heroic dungeons have long term memory problems, and don't remember how those dungeons were in TBC and even in WotLK when they started, wearing crappy quest gear, wiping in HoL, Occulus or UP. They got too used to the "easy mode" artificially created during WotLK by the careless distribution of epic gear which progressively turned 5 man dungeon a mindless faceroll.
This is patently false. In fact, you can still finds threads over at MMO-Champion from as far back as the WotLK beta in which people were concerned that heroics were too easy even in early stages of beta with only blue quality gear.
What happened with Cataclysm went well beyond a simple gear reset, they intentionally made the dungeons harder and more time consuming. For me it wasn't the difficulty that was the problem as much as it was the time investment. Waiting 40 minutes to get into a 2 hour dungeon is just ridiculous.
WoW stopped being something that I could do for 45 minutes or an hour after a long day to relax so I've taken my money elsewhere, as have all of my family and friends that played.
That's why most of the people I know and myself quit playing. It came down to time sink vs reward. It's not like end game content drastically changed over the years.
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Elmador_MoK Title: Voice of Mostly-Reason
Posts: 166
Registered: 2002-6-26 14:35:20
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Let down, but not as bad as some paint it. Small changes would have made all the difference, I think. I have been unsubbed for awhile, but did enjoy Cata for a few months and the new content (like zones) / old world.
Blizzard should have learned from the popularity of Wrath, not listened to the complaints of the hardcore. Just keep throwing them uber/extreme/wickedly difficult hard-modes with like a .01% droprate spaceship mount so they will happily waste their lives in mom's basement, and make all the content accessible to the casual crowd. Make rated battlegrounds open to solo queue; it is going to be a cluster of bads, but hasn't pvp always been? I know content not being challenging enough isn't perfect, but at least it worked (and worked well) for 2 years. Instead, behold the exodus.
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Dums Title: Moderator
The mystery flavor
Posts: 248
Registered: 2002-10-29 08:17:13
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Date Posted:
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I like the heroic raid content, the difficulty is right where it needs to be to provide a challenge for my guild and I.
Nefarion was fun before we were all decked out, too.
That's all I play the game for, when we're not raiding I'm either not logged on or dealing with guild issues while I mindlessly fly around Org. I don't do any dailies and heroics now that I've gotten the reps I need.
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