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kyrv  Title: Lord Logicus
Posts: 263
Registered: 2002-1-31 13:09:58
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So I thought you guys were exagerating |
Spookysheep posted:
I hope the entire system continues to fail until blizzard has to re-design the game and get away from the retarded "holy trinity" style of dungeon running anyway.
Dungeons should not need tanks or healers, just 5 friends getting together to slaughter their way through some caves, dungeons, mazes is WAY more fun that the crappy model we have been force fed since Everquest.
UO (and AC as I recall) did not have a holy trinity model.
If its too hard to redesign, just give us tank NPC's that self heal.
The day everyone can just play DPS, the happier and better the community will be 
I doubt changing it at this point would work. I do love games like CoH and CO where friends can get together (and be any levels too) and go quest or do an instance together. But I don't think WoW is ever going to be like that.
Warhammer originally said everyone was going to be DPS, which would have been interesting. I don't think they would have done it well, given the track record we now have, but maybe someone will try it.
SWTOR (with your npc companions) and GW2 will probably greatly get away from the tank/healer/dps requirements. (Note that holy trinity is warrior/cleric/enchanter, I assume people now mean tank/healer/dps?)
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Dums  Title: Moderator
The mystery flavor
Posts: 248
Registered: 2002-10-29 08:17:13
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Well, at least they made the call to arms thing only work if you finish the dungeon. Now there's some(more) motivation to do well and not get kicked.
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-Peo- Title: Caveat Lector
Posts: 408
Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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So I thought you guys were exagerating |
No way they will ever change. GC would have to admit he is wrong and has been for over a year, almost 2. And his own ego would bitch slap him if he even thought of admitting he was wrong.
WoW is nothing more than his ego's playground now.
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siujoey Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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So I thought you guys were exagerating |
Spookysheep posted:
I hope the entire system continues to fail until blizzard has to re-design the game and get away from the retarded "holy trinity" style of dungeon running anyway.
Dungeons should not need tanks or healers, just 5 friends getting together to slaughter their way through some caves, dungeons, mazes is WAY more fun that the crappy model we have been force fed since Everquest.
UO (and AC as I recall) did not have a holy trinity model.
If its too hard to redesign, just give us tank NPC's that self heal.
The day everyone can just play DPS, the happier and better the community will be
Amen! That is really what I miss most about AC. I could do pretty much whatever I wanted with whoever I wanted. We never had to worry about filling any certain roles. When the game you are describing comes out, I have found my next game.
Until then, I will keep dreaming about an AC3. (And continue trying to forget AC2)
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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So I thought you guys were exagerating |
I don't really see Call to Arms having much effect. The reason is the requirement to do the entire thing. At most it will attract the bad tanks who will never make it to the end. When they figure that out they will stop queuing. The fast queue is already causing DPS's to queue as tanks. Adding a reward will not do much more. This is one time I really hope I'm wrong.
The head in the sand, "There is nothing wrong" attutude really ticks me off. It shows they are totally out of touch or cannot add. Of course the simple answer is they know there is a problem but think admiting it will make it worse. They are trying "spin" until they find something that works.
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hostagecat Title: Lord of the Fluffy Death Kittys
Posts: 18
Registered: 2005-3-30 14:57:43
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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So I thought you guys were exagerating |
Actually Call to arms may make the moron tank issue even worst. However it is an attempt to fix the problem. It seems better thought out than most Blizzard solutions. I just think the law of unitended consquences will kick us all in the teeth.
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Spookysheep  Title: Lieker of Cheese
Posts: 1,248
Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
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So I thought you guys were exagerating |
hostagecat posted:
Actually Call to arms may make the moron tank issue even worst. However it is an attempt to fix the problem. It seems better thought out than most Blizzard solutions. I just think the law of unitended consquences will kick us all in the teeth.
There is absolutely no doubt this will fill up the system, within the first hour it comes out.
Mouth breather paladins in green spirit gear, and retarded DK's and warriors in green dps gear, will ALL be gearing as tanks.
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Ugh_Lancelot  Title: Ooo...bouncy!
Posts: 766
Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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So I thought you guys were exagerating |
Spookysheep posted:
If its too hard to redesign, just give us tank NPC's that self heal.
We had these until the tank players [at blizzard] whined and got BM pets and Demonology VWs nerfed.
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PallyDog Title: WoW Vault Staff
Teh Pyckles!
Posts: 991
Registered: 2003-3-4 07:09:21
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Ugh_Lancelot posted:
Spookysheep posted:
If its too hard to redesign, just give us tank NPC's that self heal.
We had these until the tank players [at blizzard] whined and got BM pets and Demonology VWs nerfed.
I thought BM tanking was actually better in Cata? Haven't tried yet but I was looking over teh talents on my tenacity pet and I was pretty impressed at a glance at least. Not that I would expect to be able to tank a heroic so might be moot for this conversation anyway.
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Spookysheep Title: Lieker of Cheese
Posts: 1,248
Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
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Date Posted:
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You can definitely tank regulars with a BM pet/spec. You'd have to be reallllly geared to tank a heroic with a pet though, but there is at least one video out there of it being done.
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