I keep hearing all these nightmare stories about bad tanks at the Cata level. I could not believe anyone could be as stupid as what some of you have described. I now fully admit I was wrong. This last week I have had an Arms Warrior tank, a Prot pally in a mish mash of Spirit, tank and Agility gear, a DW Blood DK, a kitty spec'd druid and just plain bad tanks. It's been very frustating for me. A few have been very good at listening when you try to help out and give them pointers. The blood DK yesterday though...I actually lost my temper and called him a name I particularly hate.


He refused to use CC "because all of his attacks are AE"

He rudely explained that DW is better "because it gives more procs and more defense"

He said I was stupid since I "didn't know how to use assist and target of target" (which I was doing)

He said if the healer dies it's because "the DPS weren't assisting and doing their job"

He kept prosing on about threat issues and how it shouldn't be a problem if the dps "knew what they were doing"


Well unfortunately, I never said a thing about his threat although he kept ranting on the subject (he must have been harassed about it before and is sensitive). I simply asked him to slow down his pulls and let us use CC. I also mentioned it's a good idea to make sure your group is 1) ready and with you, and 2) at full health and mana before pulling, especially on bosses.


So he flipped out on those suggestions and called me a useless dps. Hey, I was MDing to the poor guy, assisting off him and CCing the dumb casters he couldn't be bothered to use Death Grip to pull and I topped the dps charts. Very useless. Our healer finally voted to boot him. He royally ticked off the mage in the group with his opinions about what the DPS should be doing and our ret pally put on his cheesy green tank gear and did better than the DK. ...I wish I had screen shots of the convo.


Oh yes, he also yelled at the whole group for going the wrong way since we chose to go to one boss before another one when it didn't matter what order you did them in. We ignored him and let the ret pally tank.


So I now formally apologize for doubting anyone who says that there are royally stupid tanks out there.


edit: spelling - I'm trying, I relaly am!

 

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I would personally have used the word "retard" I think... or something similar.

I would actually vote kick (and leave the group if it fails) on my DPS chars if ANY tank even mentions the word "defense" in Cataclysm.

 

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I feel very lucky if I can go through an Cat instance with the same tank I started with. I average three. I have seen as many as six. Most of the really had ones are DK's but not all. The short queue is bring out the worse of the worse.

 

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Aaand it's going to get even worse. They're implementing a new "call to arms" thing int eh dungoen finder wehre the roles that groups are "short" on will get extra rewards for Qing. Mounts, pets, extra points, blah, blah, blah.

 

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Source?

 

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front page, mmo champion blue post.

Thanks. I thought this gem was worth quoting for everyone to see.

"We don't feel the tanking and healing roles have any inherent issues that are causing the representation disparity"

Seriously?

 

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Quaz, that seriously irritates me. They have to be retarded to not see that healing, pre-heroic geared, is borked and not fun. Spamming low cost, low healing spells over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again is not fun. And I bet tanking with healers that can barely scratch your health bar causing you to have to be ultra careful is not that fun either.

It boggles my mind that they ignore the glaring issues with healing/tanking not being as fun.

 

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Actually got it off the official forums last night.


http://vnboards.ign.com/world_of_warcraft_general_board/b19789/114692416/p1/?3


But here it is for easy reading.

 

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I hope the entire system continues to fail until blizzard has to re-design the game and get away from the retarded "holy trinity" style of dungeon running anyway.

Dungeons should not need tanks or healers, just 5 friends getting together to slaughter their way through some caves, dungeons, mazes is WAY more fun that the crappy model we have been force fed since Everquest.

UO (and AC as I recall) did not have a holy trinity model.

If its too hard to redesign, just give us tank NPC's that self heal.

The day everyone can just play DPS, the happier and better the community will be

 

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