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Looks like World of Warcraft is still over 12 million [Locked] |
siujoey  Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Looks like World of Warcraft is still over 12 million |
Technomancer8 posted:
If the general theme in Wrath actually worked, basically making the game EASIER so that the "casual" (aka "bad player"  could do content, then there would have been no reason to change it up in Cata to make it more difficult. Early on Blizz bragged about having 11 million accounts. Then AFTER the China release of Wrath they said they had 12 million accounts. 1 million accounts extra after a release in a densely populated country full of gamers? And now months after release Blizz hasn't posted any numbers over 12 million? Would you like to know why the subscriptions seem to be fluctuating? Would you like to know why there's no real shortage of tanks but nobody wants to tank randoms? Would you like to know why in 4.1 you can trade honor for justice points to buy PvE gear? Because the "wrath baby" players that want god-mode turned back on can't handle anything that resembles a challenge. "GOGOGO PULL FASTER STUPID TANK!!!" is the /macro of the people who are driving away subscribers. In the nightelf starting area, as well as many others, there's a quest mob that kills things for you so it's not so "challenging". But if they make the game harder it'll bring back the players who want a challenge right? Not so long as the game is stull full of wrath babies acting like screeching primates. There is no way to "fix" the game by changing the code. The real issue is with the players. So no matter what they do, what they change, whether GC is exalted as a diety or condemned as the "death of WoW", the players that left won't come back because of the "bad players" still there. Will the "bad players" leave? Not so long as they can generally have the game rewritten around the joke that is PvP there... AFK in BGs, carebear unflagging when people show up to stop them ganking lowbies / questgivers, rogues that can heal, etc etc The game survives on it's reputation, and that reputation is quickly being destroyed.
At first, I thought this was pretty funny. Then I realized it wasn't intended to be. That's when the pity set in.
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Quazimortal  Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Looks like World of Warcraft is still over 12 million |
Paragraphs, where are you?
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Spookysheep Title: Lieker of Cheese
Posts: 1,248
Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
Looks like World of Warcraft is still over 12 million |
Dums posted:
Arcilite_I posted:
Dums posted:
The_Korrigan posted:
Remember that Ghostcrawler also "did" Wrath of the Lich King.
People blame GC like if he was the worse that happened to WoW yet they praise WotLK. Foul logic.
GC is just the scapegoat for disgruntled players, nothing more. I remember another name being used as scapegoat here before GC, with the same "hatred" in the posts from the same posters. Was it Chilton? Or another one? I don't remember exactly.
Scapegoats are a convenient way to avoid admitting that a big part of the problem comes from yourself. You being burned out of a game you played for 6+ years doesn't make that game worse than before... and doesn't make you a bad person either, by the way.
Glad you said it with a smiley, I was gonna use words
Words were overkill.
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TruthyID  Posts: 189
Registered: 2010-7-7 12:52:20
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
Looks like World of Warcraft is still over 12 million |
Technomancer8 posted:
If the general theme in Wrath actually worked, basically making the game EASIER so that the "casual" (aka "bad player" could do content, then there would have been no reason to change it up in Cata to make it more difficult. Early on Blizz bragged about having 11 million accounts. Then AFTER the China release of Wrath they said they had 12 million accounts. 1 million accounts extra after a release in a densely populated country full of gamers? And now months after release Blizz hasn't posted any numbers over 12 million? Would you like to know why the subscriptions seem to be fluctuating? Would you like to know why there's no real shortage of tanks but nobody wants to tank randoms? Would you like to know why in 4.1 you can trade honor for justice points to buy PvE gear? Because the "wrath baby" players that want god-mode turned back on can't handle anything that resembles a challenge. "GOGOGO PULL FASTER STUPID TANK!!!" is the /macro of the people who are driving away subscribers. In the nightelf starting area, as well as many others, there's a quest mob that kills things for you so it's not so "challenging". But if they make the game harder it'll bring back the players who want a challenge right? Not so long as the game is stull full of wrath babies acting like screeching primates. There is no way to "fix" the game by changing the code. The real issue is with the players. So no matter what they do, what they change, whether GC is exalted as a diety or condemned as the "death of WoW", the players that left won't come back because of the "bad players" still there. Will the "bad players" leave? Not so long as they can generally have the game rewritten around the joke that is PvP there... AFK in BGs, carebear unflagging when people show up to stop them ganking lowbies / questgivers, rogues that can heal, etc etc The game survives on it's reputation, and that reputation is quickly being destroyed.
You are absolutely right, more people would play if only less people would play. What the hell was Blizzard thinking marketing their product to people with jobs and disposable income? Don't they know that the real money is in the jobless, friendless, hopeless, manchild demographic.
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Besides, those whiny "casuals" with their jobs and social lives actually expect the game to be "fun" in exchange for their $15/mo. You have any idea how much harder it is to make a "fun" game than a boring, grindy, punishing one? "Real gamers" understand that the whole point of gaming is to be the most 1337 dudzor in a basement anywhere.
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Long live Cataclysm and screw the baddies! First round of hotpockets is on me!
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Arunne Title: The Anonymous
Posts: 177
Registered: 2003-11-3 14:11:47
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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Looks like World of Warcraft is still over 12 million |
Technomancer8 posted:
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I didnt know Ghostcrawler posted here!
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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Looks like World of Warcraft is still over 12 million |
Arunne posted:
Technomancer8 posted:
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I didnt know Ghostcrawler posted here!
GC doesn't have that many spelling mistakes and he generally uses paragraphs. This is someone else's alt. 
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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Looks like World of Warcraft is still over 12 million |
TruthyID posted:
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Brilliant!!
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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"First round of Hotpockets is on me!"
hah! Tell me you have a newsletter.
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siujoey Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
Looks like World of Warcraft is still over 12 million |
TruthyID posted:
Long live Cataclysm and screw the baddies! First round of hotpockets is on me!
Quote of the day!
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Arcilite_I Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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Looks like World of Warcraft is still over 12 million |
siujoey posted:
TruthyID posted:
Long live Cataclysm and screw the baddies! First round of hotpockets is on me!
Quote of the day!
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