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GutterSludge  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-11-6 10:54:55
Many people that post here originally "tried" rift because of their outright disgust with Cata, the attitude of the Blizzard Devs, or both.

Those would not have happened during Wrath..just saying.

 

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Boone-Eldar  2 stars
Title: Infallible
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Registered: 2001-12-28 16:31:37
GutterSludge posted:

Many people that post here originally "tried" rift because of their outright disgust with Cata, the attitude of the Blizzard Devs, or both.

Those would not have happened during Wrath..just saying.



You act like I haven't been posting or reading these boards over the past 10 years. Your statement is not true.

Edit: The part of not trying Rift is not true.

 

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Fedup23  2 stars
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Registered: 2006-7-14 06:15:32
GutterSludge posted:

Many people that post here originally "tried" rift because of their outright disgust with Cata, the attitude of the Blizzard Devs, or both.

Those would not have happened during Wrath..just saying.



I think im pretty typical (judging by my guilds activities) in that I try out most new MMOs that come out..regardless of my current satisfaction.
GutterSludge  4 stars
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I disagree.

 

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Fedup23  2 stars
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GutterSludge posted:

I disagree.



I accept your disagreement with no ill will.
Bremen_Gaheris  1 star
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Registered: 2003-1-29 03:33:24
Voqar posted:

IMO Bliz needs to wake up and diablo-fy WoW. The genre needs something slightly different and there isn't that much room for serious variation on the MMORPG formula. By diablo-fy I mean add some element of randomness. When your pace of new content production is snail-like at best, your content needs an element of randomness. Completely static instances with bosses so static their abilities can be tracked with timer addons has no spice at all. The new MMORPGs are copying this exactly. Give us randomized dungeons with randomized content and unpredictable bosses that make you pay attention to the bosses instead of an addon and wake up the player base.

Bliz shot everyone in the foot with cata which was plain dumb. Lots of people said it was gonna happen before cata was close to hitting. Bliz upper management allowed whatever idiots were making all the design changes continue. They deserve to lose subs. They stripped down and redesigned core systems for a game that was perfectly fine. They made some aspects of the game so stupidly easy (leveling) that even with revamped leveling content it's insanely boring and generic. They shifted raiding from being open to tons of people to being limited to the elite, which was their dumbest move of all after opening it up to more people than ever during WOTLK.



Beautiful and masterful summary of WoW's current issues. Well done.

I can only imagine a game with WoW's engine, Diablo's hack-n-slash gameplay and randomness, and with MMO elements so there are others to play around and with. That would be a kickass game.

 

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Boone-Eldar  2 stars
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Bremen_Gaheris posted:

I can only imagine a game with WoW's engine, Diablo's hack-n-slash gameplay and randomness, and with MMO elements so there are others to play around and with. That would be a kickass game.



Indeed.

 

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-Peo-  2 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
-Peo- posted:

Denial is unreasonable.



I'm gonna go ahead and quote myself, because it is still holding up. Any reason but the real reason is denial.

 

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siujoey  2 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
Boone-Eldar posted:

siujoey posted:

Boone-Eldar posted:

I have no doubt that subscriptions have dropped. They always do a few months after a expansion releases after people go through the content. It does mean that it is likely under 12 million though now, which up until this announcement was no certainty. Whether that is because a new MMO released or that Cataclysm failed who knows. I do know certain people here will spin as Blizzard failure, but that should not surprise.



"In fact, it's actually lower than the milestone reached in 2008 with the release of Wrath of the Lich King."

That is another quote from the article. Sub numbers have reached pre-2008 levels. Spin it however you want, it is declining. And if they don't start fixing the underlying problems- this 5% reduction in subs is just the beginning....



And having a direct competitor, described as WoW 1.5 or 2.0, that was released this spring and that has gained from what I understand to be 1 million subs has no impact on that?

Look I get that a few here really are not happy with WoW for a number of different reasons, but to totally discount Rift as the probable reason for the dip in subscriptions? As Monday Night Countdown would say....Come on man.



You have been posting here 10 years so you should know there have been LOTS of games described as WoW 1.5/2.0 over the years.... Come on man.

Edit: What / Who is Monday Night Countdown? I was thinking it is a reference I would get if I didn't unsub a few months back, but it doesn't sound very "WoWish."

 

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Boone-Eldar  2 stars
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siujoey posted:

You have been posting here 10 years so you should know there have been LOTS of games described as WoW 1.5/2.0 over the years.... Come on man.

Edit: What / Who is Monday Night Countdown? I was thinking it is a reference I would get if I didn't unsub a few months back, but it doesn't sound very "WoWish."



Yep and none of them ended up being any good. Rift appears to be different, judging by player reactions.

Monday Night Countdown is a Monday Night football segment. You are a Bears fan so I understand why you would not have the opportunity to watch many MNF games to know that.

 

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