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GutterSludge  4 stars
Posts: 1,034
Registered: 2005-11-6 10:54:55
Go to Vegas, and "cheat" at a "game" there...

Just don't be surprised if some men in suits with skinny ties escort you out "the back way"....


To me this argument is all easily resolved..

When you purchase, install, and login the first time to WOW, YOU AGREE NOT TO CHEAT IN THE GAME....


If you feel that somehow you do not have to abide by that agreement, then you are a cawkflop, plain and simple.

If you cannot play the game within this agreement, quit the game.


It isn't about real life vs "a game"..it's about living up to an agreement that you made, knowingly and willingly...period.

 

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Fedup23  2 stars
Posts: 358
Registered: 2006-7-14 06:15:32
Blisteringballs posted:

Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

Cheating in a game shows that a person will easily cheat in real life. After all, if you cheat when it doesn't matter, what will you do when your family, life, job, et cetera are on the line? Cheat? Yep.



It's crazy to me how you can't understand how people approach video games far differently than they do day to day, real life situations. Or even how the two can be directly compared.

Your flawed reasoning leads to the same arguments old lawyers make about violent games and why they need to be censored.



You arent going to get through to some people with your argument.. I have tried to step outside of my view and stand on their side of the fence and all I can come up with is that this game (or other MMORPGs) become MORE than "just a game" to some people. or me its never been more than just a game.. others allow it to become more. Just like everything in life.. you cant understand/agree with everyone. I guess we are lucky that there are so many different opinions on everything, it would seem funny if everyone wandered through life agreeing on everything.
Fedup23  2 stars
Posts: 358
Registered: 2006-7-14 06:15:32
-Peo- posted:

Mind boggling to see people completely miss the point. Wrong is wrong, regardless of your rationalization of it is just a game.

Integrity is integrity, there are no caveats.



Have you managed to never do anything "wrong".. however minor?
darren_cameron
Posts: 29
Registered: 2007-10-4 17:28:59
-Peo- posted:

Mind boggling to see people completely miss the point. Wrong is wrong, regardless of your rationalization of it is just a game.

Integrity is integrity, there are no caveats.



Well said indeed.
NukeMage  2 stars
Posts: 346
Registered: 2002-4-7 16:58:45
The point I am trying to make is, that there is a "butterfly effect" which occurs from wide spread cheating in an MMORPG which does affect some people in real life. Real people lose their jobs in the gaming industry when subscription numbers fall, real people get scammed trying to purchase in game currency from third party sites, real people get frustrated and quit a game they love because they can no longer compete with cheaters.


So please tell me how these things are of no consequence?

 

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Groooovechampion  1 star
Posts: 229
Registered: 2003-6-30 16:36:01
Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

Saddens me that people who are dedicated enough to a game to come chat about it on the forums when they aren't playing, still try to blow it off as "just a game" and "no big deal". Obviously, we are people who care, to some extent or another, and that lackadaisical approach is beneath us.

Cheating in a game shows that a person will easily cheat in real life. After all, if you cheat when it doesn't matter, what will you do when your family, life, job, et cetera are on the line? Cheat? Yep.



Regarding this botting matter and the "lousy slap on the wrist", I'm pretty much sure this is a recurring thing.

Yet again, we have to look back at Daoc as an example. Buffbotting was considered bad, dishonorable, younameit (and it was not even possible to alt-tab out of daoc without the client crashing; ie, no windowed mode). But then that was "dropped" and the influx of buffbotting and whatnots just came rolling in.

I am not surprised to see this happening in wow after several years.

 

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-Peo-  2 stars
Title: Caveat Lector
Posts: 408
Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
Fedup23 posted:

-Peo- posted:

Mind boggling to see people completely miss the point. Wrong is wrong, regardless of your rationalization of it is just a game.

Integrity is integrity, there are no caveats.



Have you managed to never do anything "wrong".. however minor?



Read the post.

 

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Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
Title: Ooo...bouncy!
Posts: 766
Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
Groooovechampion posted:

Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

Saddens me that people who are dedicated enough to a game to come chat about it on the forums when they aren't playing, still try to blow it off as "just a game" and "no big deal". Obviously, we are people who care, to some extent or another, and that lackadaisical approach is beneath us.

Cheating in a game shows that a person will easily cheat in real life. After all, if you cheat when it doesn't matter, what will you do when your family, life, job, et cetera are on the line? Cheat? Yep.



Regarding this botting matter and the "lousy slap on the wrist", I'm pretty much sure this is a recurring thing.

Yet again, we have to look back at Daoc as an example. Buffbotting was considered bad, dishonorable, younameit (and it was not even possible to alt-tab out of daoc without the client crashing; ie, no windowed mode). But then that was "dropped" and the influx of buffbotting and whatnots just came rolling in.

I am not surprised to see this happening in wow after several years.


I guess you weren't around for the ensuing change to make buffs have a 50 yard range and only affect group members for things like end/res, eh?

 

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