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mellaril
Posts: 17
Registered: 2001-12-20 11:12:24
I'd like to see more benefit from Lockpick and Pickpocket. More locked chests and some decent loot. WotLk had a 100g Porecelain Bell as a fishing quest reward. Why not throw in a few high end vedor trash as a pickpocket reward? Toss a few more decent items into junkboxes. If they're using a Potion of Treasure Finding, let rogues picketpocket Tiny Treasure Chests.

 

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Spookysheep  4 stars
Title: Lieker of Cheese
Posts: 1,248
Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
Lets not forget that rogue armor and weapons become more and more retarded looking each tier, way worse than other classes.

 

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Groooovechampion  1 star
Posts: 229
Registered: 2003-6-30 16:36:01
Why least played?
para mi, senior:

- years long playstyle rape by the developers.
- better, innovating (ymmv) aspects of other classes.
- I'm no longer subbed as a career rogue like many others ;P ( )
- narrow-minded introduction of cookie cutter builds and other crap leading to point no.1.
- still no true open-TERRITORIAL pvp
- no warcraft
- other games proving how things can be implemented step by step without raping the class (or the subs ;P)
- oldschool devs/producers yet moving along while the bad apples stay and spread death and decay aoe.
- arrogant standpoint of blizzard most of the time although a wide majority says things otherwise

- other classes becoming extremly resilient (metaphorically and game-literally)
- wound poison changes , from stacks-application to single stack and then down to 10% efficient on heals that are some 5-digits large; and due to single stack, the anti-poison can be easily removed -_-.
- or the crap I had to put up with, farming rep day and night for an exalted-dagger with awesome stats at that time, just to find out that blizztard stealth-nerfed it to some crappy one - for no reason.

And that is not even the tip of the iceberg, bro.

And no, I still managed to kill things in pvp, but it was amazing what incredible force I had to throw in while others just had to press to magical buttons -- and even get away with it.
Fighting mages without the right spec was already brainless. Aside to frost armor, freeze root, iceblock and blink -- or how long that deepfreeze AoE 5sec stun + monster dmg was in the game...

Jesus crap, and Blizzard say they come with "near perfect" game design subjects?
Maybe I am taking things wrong.

At this point, I don't know why I didn't call my rogue Naruto earlier, regarding the few crappy abilities we when compared to the level of other new abilities on other classes.

 

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-Peo-  2 stars
Title: Caveat Lector
Posts: 408
Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
Vault_News posted:

It's possible that some rogue mechanics which aren't as fun as they could be. This is a really subjective issue though, and it's trivial to find members of every class and spec declaring that their character is clunky and ill-conceived



I found this hilarious.

The reason you get a lot of people complaining about their class being clunky and ill-conceived is because...wait for it...

They ARE clunky and ill-conceived.

Occam's Razor? More like Occam's Bulldozer.

 

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Shenron_  3 stars
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Trigeminal  2 stars
Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
Posts: 365
Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
Shenron_ posted:

do other classes beat rogues even at single target dps?



I have 4 relatively equally geared level 85s (350 to 355ish ilvl). My rogue is the lowest of the 4 on single target DPS... and no it is not because of a complex rotation I've yet to raid this expansion so YMMV once you get into 372 gear.

 

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Shenron_  3 stars
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Kriegprojekt  3 stars
Posts: 590
Registered: 2010-4-12 13:06:28
Trigeminal posted:

Shenron_ posted:

do other classes beat rogues even at single target dps?



I have 4 relatively equally geared level 85s (350 to 355ish ilvl). My rogue is the lowest of the 4 on single target DPS... and no it is not because of a complex rotation I've yet to raid this expansion so YMMV once you get into 372 gear.



I was one of the people who rolled a DK to play around with. Even with crappy blue/greens, my Frost DK could get about 15K DPS on a raid dummy. On my rogue, after the Sub changes, I could still only get about 8-9K DPS with better gear than my DK. The DK was so much better hands down utility-wise too. Hell, my crappy Frost mage was hitting 9K DPS at level 80 in garbage greens.

 

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formerly_addicted  1 star
Posts: 74
Registered: 2010-5-18 02:57:10
the main reason imo:
PvE: their damage suck compared to other DPS Classes
PvP: they can not take damage and have only a few tricks to get away, once COS is down they are a free kill basicly

 

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Blisteringballs  2 stars
Posts: 272
Registered: 2009-8-12 12:41:21
I thought they were fun in pvp. Not the most effective but fun. In pve I felt like I was doing a lot of work for little results.

 

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