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Vault_News  Title: 0110011010
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Daxxarri posted:
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This is a topic we discuss a lot. We don't believe it has anything to do with game balance though. Rogues were also less popular than other classes at times when they consistently topped damage meters and dominated PvP. This isn't a trend that seems to rise and fall with current game balance. Overall, we've never seen a strong correlation between which class is considered overpowered and what players are playing. (Note: This is true overall, but if you move to smaller and smaller sample sizes, perhaps Arena teams above or below a certain rating threshold or raids above or below a certain level of progress, then you can see some correlations between power--real or perceived--and popularity.)
We do know that a lot of rogues appeared to reroll DK, at least when the class was first introduced. We also think rogues were more popular back in the day before flying mounts and instance-teleportation, where ganking someone out in the wilderness was more common. We saw a surge in the popularity of hybrid classes, especially druids and paladins, as running heroic dungeons became something nearly every player did instead of a more dedicated minority.
It's possible that some rogue mechanics which aren't as fun as they could be. This is a really subjective issue though, and it's trivial to find members of every class and spec declaring that their character is clunky and ill-conceived while some other class or spec appears sleek and shiny. We made some changes (i.e. stealth movement speed) to try and make some of the rogue mechanics more fun and this is the kind of thing we'll continue to keep an eye on.
Plenty of players love rogues though. We don't want to give the perception that the class is dying or anything like that. It's just less commonly played than say paladin, which is probably why you see so many paladin-related threads on all three forums.
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_Warlucky_  Posts: 183
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DPS que times as opposed to tank/healer que times. Duh
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TruthyID Posts: 189
Registered: 2010-7-7 12:52:20
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_Warlucky_ posted:
DPS que times as opposed to tank/healer que times. Duh
This, plus they bring the least utility to a group.
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Shenron_ Posts: 543
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I enjoy playing my rogue..
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Trigeminal  Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
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Here is my theory:
- They are melee in a game that favors ranged.
- They have one role (dps) and none other.
- They do not excel at their role (dps) in that almost any class can do the same or better damage.
- They only get pvp kills on poorly geared and poorly played opponents. Their pvp role now is support/control.
- I'm sure there are more but I'm tired.
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croaks35 Posts: 45
Registered: 2009-7-20 22:26:57
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TruthyID posted:
_Warlucky_ posted:
DPS que times as opposed to tank/healer que times. Duh
This, plus they bring the least utility to a group.
Ha more like the said in article that alot went to DK wondered where all the idiots that play DK come from sorry but old WoW 90% of the ppl who played a rogue sucked.No way did the move to a class like tank or healer.
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lots of reasons.
the main is they are the only melee dps that can't do something other than DPS. while mages and locks are both ranged dps with no other options.... they are RANGED which means they are better off, plus they bring more utility to a raid than a rogue.
why play a rogue when you can play an enchancement shaman and provide more utility to a raid and also heal as an offspec? or a warrior or DK and have the ability to tank? or a druid or paladin and be able to both heal and tank as well?
if they'd given rogues heroism/blood lust or some sort of buff we'd see a few more.
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Above have mentioned many of the reasons why rogues in WoW do not function as smoothly as other dps classes but for a short answer as to why they have lost popularity over time I would agree with the above: DKs replaced Rogues in PvP and PvE.
Personally, I always found the combo system very silly and only more so when they added unique talents to fix its various shortcomings. Rogue stealth was pretty balanced around where it should be I thought, even in PvP. Then again, I rarely played a cloth class.
Rogues should have had the hunter's traps from Day 1. Traps should have been the rogue's primary AoE and/or severe debuff effect that would actually be noticed in a group environment. Probably the Diablo 2 assassin blueprint should have been adhered to more closely. They probably could use more options to improve mobility in WoW's fast paced combat, but the warrior has pretty much staked out that niche.
Hunter's should have had more unique buff effects or special interactions with their various pets that brought something unique to a group. Instead I find with your average pug huntard you might be better off just asking them to put the pet away and never bring it out.
In most fantasy RPG games that WoW is inspired by Rogues were your support or irregular fighters who did the noncombat stuff like opening locks and disarming traps, setting traps and preparing a battleground or ambush, and basically avoiding any sort of stand up toe to toe fight. Some go further and have various subclasses of rogues like Bards and such that bring alot more party utility at the cost of straight damage potential. WoW did not need nor want a disarming or buffing specialist to be a requirement and so made rogues lightly armored combat assassins that kill people by a 1000 papercuts and some nasty snot they put on their weapons.
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Anonymous posted:
Trigeminal posted:
Here is my theory:
- They are melee in a game that favors ranged.
- They have one role (dps) and none other.
- They do not excel at their role (dps) in that almost any class can do the same or better damage.
- They only get pvp kills on poorly geared and poorly played opponents. Their pvp role now is support/control.
- I'm sure there are more but I'm tired.
100% accurate.
- In PvP they are difficult to setup for stealth attacks because of all of the AoE attacks being thrown around.
- Almost zero utility.
- Burst damage isnt as "bursty" as they need to take down a player in PvP (see undergeared comment above).
Still - rogues are an absolute blast to play in PvE if you just want to do solo quests and fart around. Raiding, its very difficult due to the typically lower DPS than another DPS class.
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