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Hornet_MT  1 star
Posts: 103
Registered: 2002-8-16 11:16:25
The_Korrigan posted:

I loved rare spawns in Asheron's Call. Because they involved exploration. Hunting the Hoary Mattekar was an adventure.

But in WoW? They are at fixed places, always the same. There is no hunt.

The feeling of the hunt totally disappeared in any "modern" EQ clone, WoW is not the only culprit of this. Even for quests, you now have big frigging arrows on a map to show you where to go. Seems like the new generation of players are so stupid they can't understand simple instructions like "go north, then east between the mountains" and need to be hand held all the time.



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WOW maps are far more 'innovative' in their design... but they are linear in progression and the quest sysem perpetuates this: Go A, kill 1, 2 & 3, Go Base, Go B, collect 4, kill 5, Go Base, etc...


Rares occasionally pop on the radar but don't have anything of value hence whats the point in stopping in your A -> B -> C route.


Whilst the AC map wasn't as innovative, it encouraged exploration through its randomness. You knew that certain mobs would be in certain area's, but that was about it... searching for Diamond Golems, Mattekars, etc... fingers crossed that a 113% +15 would drop or something equally rare and valuable was THE reason you went out every day hunting.


IMO - WOW needs a new zone... 3-4 times the size of Old Barrens, more 'craggy' and 'foresty' with dangerous mobs mixed in with normal mobs EVERYWHERE... stuff that can be soloe'd (just), combined with stuff that needs a group of 2-3 to kill (it would need some clever design to make it so one 'pally'/pet class can't kill everything). It wouldn't be hard to put some lore together that could give us a reason for the zone.


The puller for me would be the loot... blues would drop frequently (1 in 3) from the rare mobs, ranging in Item Level upto Max level + 10. Random stats (could be useless, could be special) - BOE. If you got lucky, you would get a Blue item as good Raid level gear (not heroic Raid) - but the chances of getting the perfect mix of stats on a max level item would make that a rare occurence. In my view, you would aim to get 4/5 blue items an hour - the chances of any of them being a close to 'perfect' item about 1 in 200 with the chance of it being something 'useable' by the majority of the playerbase about 1 in 10.

 

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Groooovechampion  1 star
Posts: 229
Registered: 2003-6-30 16:36:01
I never got behind why Daoc was never really cloned (and I've yet to see a game that came somewhere close to it).

Unless it's always been a fail-concept, but I seriously doubt that.

 

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Posts: 9
Registered: 2009-8-25 12:22:30
On behalf of anyone who plays a hunter that cares about the cata rarespawns. It takes a lot o time to camp some of the new creatures. If you come across one, just wait a moment to see if a Hunter is there before you go tagging it and killing it. I had Skitterflame killed 9 times because people didn't take a moment to notice that I had laid a trap and was waiting for the cooldown, had him targeted and everything. I saw someone run up and KILL Deth'Tilac when someone had been camping it for 3 weeks, simply because they were Horde and the hunter was Alliance.

It's sad. When I camp a mob and someone comes along and DOESN'T kill it, but rather helps me get it? (in the case of Deth'Tilac bringing the health down) having toons on both sides of the wall, I pay well over the 25 gold for the tear, and I'm not the only one with that mentality.


As for outside of Cata? Oh yeah, I kill 'em, unless I know it's a highly coveted rarespawn. Then I give hunters 5 minutes to nab it before I kill it, such as the cases of Loque'Nahak, Skoll, Etc. I spam both general, and log my bank alt on and spam trade in a capital city, and detail that in 5 minutes it's goin' bye bye. It also helps that I have about 20 hunters on my Real ID from camping the cata spawns, I just broadcast who spawned and the coords and usually they're tamed within a few minutes.

 

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-Abysmal-  4 stars
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i used to do loop after loop looking for vultros for it's dagger...got the cape about 20 times, never the dagger...i gave up my obsession, but it took a long ass time.

 

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-Mithan-  4 stars
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I like Rare Spawns, but wish it was the AC style.

 

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Arcilite_I  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
-Mithan- posted:

I like Rare Spawns, but wish it was the AC style.

 

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Trigeminal  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
Arcilite_I posted:

-Mithan- posted:

I wish WoW was AC.

 

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Arcilite_I  4 stars
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Trigeminal posted:

Arcilite_I posted:

-Mithan- posted:

I wish WoW was AC.





Would be so awesome

 

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NukeMage  2 stars
Posts: 346
Registered: 2002-4-7 16:58:45
Arcilite_I posted:

Trigeminal posted:

Arcilite_I posted:

-Mithan- posted:

I wish WoW was AC.





Would be so awesome

 

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-Spacelord-  2 stars
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Registered: 2000-12-18 16:59:19
The_Korrigan posted:

I loved rare spawns in Asheron's Call. Because they involved exploration. Hunting the Hoary Mattekar was an adventure.
But in WoW? They are at fixed places, always the same. There is no hunt.
The feeling of the hunt totally disappeared in any "modern" EQ clone, WoW is not the only culprit of this. Even for quests, you now have big frigging arrows on a map to show you where to go. Seems like the new generation of players are so stupid they can't understand simple instructions like "go north, then east between the mountains" and need to be hand held all the time.



Well said!

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