Geez, Bashiok, don't give us exact numbers, but at least give a freaking hint on how wrong MMO Champion is...say something like move the decimal point over one, or it's at least double digits...or something...if you won't share the numbers at all, then people won't believe you. People like data.

 

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Because giving exact numbers would end up around the 5-8% range, which isn't exactly a huge or lolgotcha number they could shove in the faces of their subbers.

 

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Let's see..

MMO champ always predicts when patches will land..accurately.

As a matter of fact, over the years, they have always been spot on when "predicting" or "discerning" things such as this...


But now, all of a sudden, they don't know what the hell they are doing... because what they are saying verifies every 'B-team' comment ever made?


CoughcoughBull[tos_profanity]Bashiok.

Until Blizzard publishes the raw data, 1.34% is completely viable, and is infinitely more accurate than Bashiok's "it's wrong, because I said so".

Thanks for the verification, Bash.

 

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Being anal and a da-greed engineer.... I do wonder at the number.

I am in a guild with multiple alts. We do run alt runs and are 25 man 7/7 and H6/7. Plus a ton of 10 mans.


The question is, how many people have done FL by account, not toon. I'm not sure how you could data mine that answer without have internal Bliz numbers. With that data set available, how do you seperate the 1 person, from the multiple alts doing FL?

So what you're saying is..........the number would be less than 1.34% with the correct data?

 

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According to MMO-Champion's numbers it's actually 5% of the population that completed FL. Their statistics show that of the 2,700,000 characters they checked 135,859 had the 7/7 normal achievement. 135,859/2,700,000 = 0.0503 = 5.03%

The guy who posted the 1.35% figure obviously didn't read the MMO-Champion post very carefully and assumed that they checked all 10 million subscribers. Still, 5% is not a very impressive number. Like somebody already said, that's likely why Bashiok didn't give us the real number.

Either way this begs the question, why are they spending so much of their development time and resources creating content for such a small portion of the population? The only new content they've added for the other 95% of the population since Cataclysm launched is a boring daily quest grind and two recycled 5 mans.

When will blizzard learn that arguing with people on the internet about this type of thing makes them look worse then the crap some website is saying.

Dont they know the old saying ...me thinks tho dost protest too much

 

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This.

Either make the content you develop each cycle far more accessible and desirable to do so that a much higher percentage is participating in it (like at least 50%) or spend more time on the content that the 95% are participating in. To not do so will continue to drive subscriptions numbers lower.

Seems pretty common sense to me.

 

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Yeah I fully agree they have different numbers but they damn well would show them if they supported their position which it is obvious they do not. They know how bad they screwed up but their egos are in the way of making the corrections they know they need to make

 

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When you say population are you refering to the total population of level 85 toons or the total population of accounts? There is a differance, many accounts have multiple toons that have cleared FL. What is the breakout?

So that being said

% of accounts that have at least 1 level 85 toon

% of those accounts that have been to FL

% of those accounts that have cleared fl on reg

% Heroic

% or accounts that have had multiple toons clear FL


There are a lot of ways to spin the data, I just have not seen anything the specifies the above. Heck, we don't even know how many acocunts even have 1 level 85 toon.