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Quazimortal  4 stars
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knight-of-ni posted:

Quazimortal posted:

Except that DOTA isn't a generic term at all so that case isn't relevant at all. Next?



His claim was shown and there's no need to provide a "next". First to file doesn't mean it won't be successfully challenged.



Wtf are you talking about? I don't think you even understand what this conversation is about so do yourself a favor and don't comment again.

 

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knight-of-ni
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Registered: 2004-5-29 15:06:08
Quazimortal posted:

Wtf are you talking about? I don't think you even understand what this conversation is about so do yourself a favor and don't comment again.



Clearly you have trouble following your own thread. I'll break it down for you, but I suspect logic will roll off you like water on a duck.


-MrBean- posted:

Demorak posted:

It's not Blizzard's trademark for them to stop someone from using it. First come, first serve......thems is the rules.



Funny, not always in the eyes of the law. Been plenty of trademarks that have been fought against and overruled.



Demorak stated "first come first serve" regarding trademarks.

MrBean responded "Not always".


You got all snippy.


MrBean then, at your request, provided an example (of several) of someone filing a trademark and it being overturned despite being filed first.


This isn't personal, you're just being snippy. You sound like a child.


If you want to discuss an actual issue of trademark law and how it can screw things up especially when an 800lb gorilla starts swinging his roomful of lawyers, fine... let's do that. But if you're going to throw a tantrum like this is your sandbox whenever someone disagrees with you, I'll be happy to move along and discuss it with others who can talk like adults.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
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knight-of-ni posted:

Blah frickin' blah! I'm gonna make myself sound like I know wtf I'm talking about when obviously I'm just jumping in here to throw around insults instead of join the actual conversation.



Yeah, that is the impression I got from your other post I was just making sure. Roger!

 

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knight-of-ni
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I never insulted you until after your little tantrums. Don't pretend you're being the adult now.

As I said I'm happy to talk about problems of trademark regs. Someone even trademarked Linux. There are plenty of problems and blizzard tends to try to claim ownership over creative things they have not created.

As such I support valve's position but not because they trademarked it first.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
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knight-of-ni posted:

I never insulted you until after your little tantrums. Don't pretend you're being the adult now.

As I said I'm happy to talk about problems of trademark regs. Someone even trademarked Linux. There are plenty of problems and blizzard tends to try to claim ownership over creative things they have not created.

As such I support valve's position but not because they trademarked it first.



I've already conceded earlier in this thread that there are circumstances which would allow someone to take control of a trademark but they always require specific circumstances, otherwise the person who trademarks it first wins. Since someone so kindly posted the relevant EULA clauses you can clearly see that Blizzard owns the map itself and the mod used to make it, but they have absolutely no claim to the name of the map. From what I can tell we agree but your post that I rudely replied to made it sound like you disagreed with me for a reason that made no sense in that regard.

 

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Listen. If Blizzard hasn't laid claim to the patent of DOTA until now then tough. Whenever someone tries to capitalize on an idea that has been based on something else; everyone screams PATENT TROLL! Grow up Blizz. Give Valve a break.
Sprawl-zero1eye-  4 stars
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Who cares if they capitalize on it? Just don't try to claim it as your own.

How do you think the community would react if Ubuntu tried to claim Linux and sue all of the other distros?

 

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I think I'm going to trademark the Sprawl name.
Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
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Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

Who cares if they capitalize on it? Just don't try to claim it as your own.

How do you think the community would react if Ubuntu tried to claim Linux and sue all of the other distros?


Analogy fail. What it would be like is if Ubuntu tried to claim Ubuntu as a trademark. OH WAIT.

http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy

 

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Demorak  2 stars
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Ugh_Lancelot posted:

Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

Who cares if they capitalize on it? Just don't try to claim it as your own.

How do you think the community would react if Ubuntu tried to claim Linux and sue all of the other distros?


Analogy fail. What it would be like is if Ubuntu tried to claim Ubuntu as a trademark. OH WAIT.

http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy



Umm no, yours would be like if Blizzard Entertainment tried to trademark Blizzard Entertainment. OH WAIT.

Sprawl's analogy was correct. His is referencing someone trademarking something created through a platform, whereas yours is trademarking the platform itself.

DOTA is not the platform.

 

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