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vn_vigilante66  1 star
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Blizzard isnt wanting the name nor the rights to the game but is fighting to make sure that Valve isnt allowed full rights. Blizzard wants it to be an open domain of game so that no one can claim it.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
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vn_vigilante66 posted:

Blizzard isnt wanting the name nor the rights to the game but is fighting to make sure that Valve isnt allowed full rights. Blizzard wants it to be an open domain of game so that no one can claim it.



What are the grounds for keeping something open domain? I honestly have no idea.

 

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Demorak  2 stars
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vn_vigilante66 posted:

Blizzard isnt wanting the name nor the rights to the game but is fighting to make sure that Valve isnt allowed full rights. Blizzard wants it to be an open domain of game so that no one can claim it.



You really think Blizzard's main motive is to keep it open domain? I'm sure on paper that is their argument, but we all know it's about them being out of the if Valve gets the trademark on it.

 

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-MrBean-  2 stars
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Demorak posted:

vn_vigilante66 posted:

Blizzard isnt wanting the name nor the rights to the game but is fighting to make sure that Valve isnt allowed full rights. Blizzard wants it to be an open domain of game so that no one can claim it.



You really think Blizzard's main motive is to keep it open domain? I'm sure on paper that is their argument, but we all know it's about them being out of the if Valve gets the trademark on it.



Your argument doesn't make sense. Blizzard isn't making money off it currently.
Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
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-MrBean- posted:

Demorak posted:

vn_vigilante66 posted:

Blizzard isnt wanting the name nor the rights to the game but is fighting to make sure that Valve isnt allowed full rights. Blizzard wants it to be an open domain of game so that no one can claim it.



You really think Blizzard's main motive is to keep it open domain? I'm sure on paper that is their argument, but we all know it's about them being out of the if Valve gets the trademark on it.



Your argument doesn't make sense. Blizzard isn't making money off it currently.


Nice caveat "currently" there.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/306409-activision-blizzard-s-ceo-discusses-q3-2011-results-earnings-call-transcript


MikeMorhaime posted:

In addition to Heart of the Swarm, the StarCraft development team has been hard at work on a new free-to-play online game, Blizzard DOTA. This game was created by our development team using the StarCraft II engine, and we debuted a new version of it at BlizzCon. Blizzard DOTA drew a lot of positive interest from press who attended the show and will be our entry into an increasingly popular genre of online games. Similar games in the market operate on a free-to-play basis with micro-transaction elements. With that in mind, we're currently exploring what type of business model will work best for Blizzard DOTA, and look forward to sharing more information about the game in the near future.


You might be thinking "Oh, well it's F2P in that presser, too." True, but if you think they'd make an entire game F2P without monetizing it somehow...

 

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Demorak  2 stars
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Ugh_Lancelot posted:

Nice caveat "currently" there.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/306409-activision-blizzard-s-ceo-discusses-q3-2011-results-earnings-call-transcript


MikeMorhaime posted:

In addition to Heart of the Swarm, the StarCraft development team has been hard at work on a new free-to-play online game, Blizzard DOTA. This game was created by our development team using the StarCraft II engine, and we debuted a new version of it at BlizzCon. Blizzard DOTA drew a lot of positive interest from press who attended the show and will be our entry into an increasingly popular genre of online games. Similar games in the market operate on a free-to-play basis with micro-transaction elements. With that in mind, we're currently exploring what type of business model will work best for Blizzard DOTA, and look forward to sharing more information about the game in the near future.


You might be thinking "Oh, well it's F2P in that presser, too." True, but if you think they'd make an entire game F2P without monetizing it somehow...





It's simple:

Valve gets the trademark for DOTA, then Blizzard is no longer the sole entity that DOTA is tied to, thus losing out on LOTS of profit.

Blizz cockblocks Valve over the trademark, then they have full reigns to all the profits that the name would bring in.

It's delusional to think that Blizzard isn't in this to make sure they get the profit.

 

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-MrBean-  2 stars
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Demorak posted:

Ugh_Lancelot posted:

Nice caveat "currently" there.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/306409-activision-blizzard-s-ceo-discusses-q3-2011-results-earnings-call-transcript


MikeMorhaime posted:

In addition to Heart of the Swarm, the StarCraft development team has been hard at work on a new free-to-play online game, Blizzard DOTA. This game was created by our development team using the StarCraft II engine, and we debuted a new version of it at BlizzCon. Blizzard DOTA drew a lot of positive interest from press who attended the show and will be our entry into an increasingly popular genre of online games. Similar games in the market operate on a free-to-play basis with micro-transaction elements. With that in mind, we're currently exploring what type of business model will work best for Blizzard DOTA, and look forward to sharing more information about the game in the near future.


You might be thinking "Oh, well it's F2P in that presser, too." True, but if you think they'd make an entire game F2P without monetizing it somehow...





It's simple:

Valve gets the trademark for DOTA, then Blizzard is no longer the sole entity that DOTA is tied to, thus losing out on LOTS of profit.

Blizz cockblocks Valve over the trademark, then they have full reigns to all the profits that the name would bring in.

It's delusional to think that Blizzard isn't in this to make sure they get the profit.



Okay, let's say they are in it for the profit.

You still haven't come up with a reason why Valve should be able to trademark the name rather than Blizzard.
Nestor_II  1 star
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If Blizzard wins maybe they can put their A-Team back in charge of WoW, the B-team has done enough damage.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
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-MrBean- posted:

Okay, let's say they are in it for the profit.

You still haven't come up with a reason why Valve should be able to trademark the name rather than Blizzard.



He didn't have to, I supplied a perfectly valid reason.


Quazimortal posted:

Because they were the first to do it?

Isn't that how it is suppose to work?



Quazimortal posted:

I think Valve gave Blizzard ample time to trademark it themselves. It isn't like DOTA is brand new or anything.

 

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