Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
A Good Summary of Why Blizzard is Hemorrhaging Subscriptions
JaredKorry posted:
Fedup23 posted:
JaredKorry posted:
Its still laughing! Hit it again!!
Oh how clever Fed! You are truly most original with your childish attempts at insults. What shall we expect next? A "your mama" joke?
I was just messin round..chill.
Spookysheep Title: Lieker of Cheese Posts: 1,248 Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
A Good Summary of Why Blizzard is Hemorrhaging Subscriptions
Dei_Ray_HG posted: All this is about a a set of shoulders and a helm?
I have to think the players are far more shallow than WoW will ever be.
I mean, just recently I spent days trying to prefect my hunters DPS. Then I spent the better part of a week working on my priests enchanting. In between I've been working on leveling a few other alts. (I have every class at L60 or above). I have fun going back into old dungeons I haven't seen in years. Sometimes with appropriate level alts, sometimes with monster 85 just to wreck havoc. I still wonder bug eyed at some of the landscape in WoW and can spend time just looking while I mine or fish or whatever.
I can sit down and find all kinds of things to do in WoW for hours on end, then come back tomorrow and do something totally different.
Do I raid. Sometimes but honestly, I've spent hours with groups, wiping over and over just trying to learn a fight. It gets old after while. Yes, it can be a challenge and exhilarating when you finally down a boss but it can be tedious and frustrating as well. I know in the back of my mind that 3 months from now I can probably come back to the same fight and it will be a piece of cake for what ever reason.
Am I gonna rage quit because I can't get a piece of armor or two? Nope. Think not.
Did you really fail to comprehend the point or are you just pretending to be obtuse so you can get this baby back on topic?
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
A Good Summary of Why Blizzard is Hemorrhaging Subscriptions
-Mithan- posted: I've said it a few times when all the retards were crying about how "easy" WotLK was:
People don't want super hard games.
Cataclysm was a pain, so I quit it a month after its release. WotLK was perfect for balance and I even got several "wellfare" epics and had a cool, powerful character. I even joined a few PUG Raids in WotLK and had a blast.
Done.
Aye, I loved WotLK, it had a good story, it seemed like all classes were a blast. PvP zones were nice, gold was easily made if you farmed up stuff. Even the Nordic atmosphere was a blast, I love that stuff.
Now, they turned around and took most of that away, I still play, but it lacks the 'cool' factor it once had. Even the upper city zone you graduated to had a 'wow' factor. Arthas was bad ass, this goofy hinged jawed dragon however just doesn't inspire the dread or even the betrayal, for that matter anything, lol.
Ah well till Mythic decides buff bots are not good for daoc (something they will never do), I will continue for a bit longer.
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Dei_Ray_HG Title: Old Fart Posts: 54 Registered: 2001-2-21 07:09:14
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
A Good Summary of Why Blizzard is Hemorrhaging Subscriptions
I thought the main topic was "blizzard refuses to cater to the non-raider" and that is why subscriptions are hemorrhaging.
From my point of view, probably 98% percent of the game is non-raid content and new "stuff" is added on a regular basis. I am constantly amazed at the dept and breadth of this game. If I started making a list of non-raid content and ways you can idle away hours pushing WoW pixels, this post would get way to long and the next thing on the agenda would be labeling me a "fan boy". So, I will leave it at that.
I will say that if a gamer can not find something that interests them in WoW then I think the vernacular is "GTFO" which, apparently, some are doing. Regardless, I'd be happy to own an on-line game that had a measly 1 million subscribers as long as I had a profit of a buck apiece/month.
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kyrv Title: Lord Logicus Posts: 263 Registered: 2002-1-31 13:09:58
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
A Good Summary of Why Blizzard is Hemorrhaging Subscriptions
Spookysheep posted: Saw a good thread on MMO champion and noticed one poster summarized what I've been seeing all over the place about why so many players are leaving WoW so quickly now:
It is BLIZZARD'S JOB to provide a game that the players want to play. In my case, as far as the game is concerned, I want to earn my gear in an environment I find fun...
In a way, you're right, I don't want to WORK for my gear. I want to PLAY the GAME, in a way I find FUN, and obtain gear as I do. I have fun in five-mans. I do not have fun in raids. I still want to have an armor set to work toward, a milestone to accomplish. This gives me incentive to play, and more importantly and more relevant, incentive to PAY blizzard.
....why in the [expletive] does that justify leaving the token requirements on the helm and shoulders of the old set? That isn't the best of the best anymore, its mediocre. It's old. But it's still locked. Similarly, they won't even make a dungeon set for 5-man players to collect. There's extra colors of the tier in the game files that goes unused; they could turn that into the "current tier 5 man dungeon set" but do they? nope. Not a single bit of incentive for the five man player.
At the end of the day, blizzard refuses to cater to the non-raider, and it's costing them in spades
It is the same argument since vanilla WoW. Most players do not like raiding but the 5 mans are universally popular. Blizzard has made it where you can only partially accomplish a new gear milestone in 5 mans, but to get helm and shoulders, they tried to force players to raid.
Players chose to cancel, probably at over 1 million now.
It is so extremely simple, how can the B team not grasp it? Players just like cool looking, matching armor sets, and they like 5 mans, but not raids.
Funny how even a could take over Blizzard at this point and turn the subscription numbers around, but the current CEO can't (and still has a job).
Well you WILL raid OR do arenas (a real player does both! on the same day!!) or you will pay a price.
Make it so. Because we said so.
But seriously, good find. Just one thing but a good example of what goes on for the idiot player that wants to play the game to have fun and is willing to put in the time and effort to advance. But no you can't do that. Do it OUR way dude.
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A Good Summary of Why Blizzard is Hemorrhaging Subscriptions
Cedax posted:
-Mithan- posted: I've said it a few times when all the retards were crying about how "easy" WotLK was:
People don't want super hard games.
Cataclysm was a pain, so I quit it a month after its release. WotLK was perfect for balance and I even got several "wellfare" epics and had a cool, powerful character. I even joined a few PUG Raids in WotLK and had a blast.
Done.
Aye, I loved WotLK, it had a good story, it seemed like all classes were a blast. PvP zones were nice, gold was easily made if you farmed up stuff. Even the Nordic atmosphere was a blast, I love that stuff.
Now, they turned around and took most of that away, I still play, but it lacks the 'cool' factor it once had. Even the upper city zone you graduated to had a 'wow' factor. Arthas was bad ass, this goofy hinged jawed dragon however just doesn't inspire the dread or even the betrayal, for that matter anything, lol.
Ah well till Mythic decides buff bots are not good for daoc (something they will never do), I will continue for a bit longer.
Well I think part of the issue also, was that after Wrath, that ended everything that was set down in Warcraft 3. Illidain had been taken care of in BC and now Arthas Wrath. So now all of a sudden they had to cook up a new "enemy".
To tell you honestly, after the next expansion, I would rather see WoW die and have them come out with a Warcraft 4 RTS and then follow that up with a WoW 2.
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kyrv Title: Lord Logicus Posts: 263 Registered: 2002-1-31 13:09:58
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
A Good Summary of Why Blizzard is Hemorrhaging Subscriptions
JaconKin posted:
Cedax posted:
-Mithan- posted: I've said it a few times when all the retards were crying about how "easy" WotLK was:
People don't want super hard games.
Cataclysm was a pain, so I quit it a month after its release. WotLK was perfect for balance and I even got several "wellfare" epics and had a cool, powerful character. I even joined a few PUG Raids in WotLK and had a blast.
Done.
Aye, I loved WotLK, it had a good story, it seemed like all classes were a blast. PvP zones were nice, gold was easily made if you farmed up stuff. Even the Nordic atmosphere was a blast, I love that stuff.
Now, they turned around and took most of that away, I still play, but it lacks the 'cool' factor it once had. Even the upper city zone you graduated to had a 'wow' factor. Arthas was bad ass, this goofy hinged jawed dragon however just doesn't inspire the dread or even the betrayal, for that matter anything, lol.
Ah well till Mythic decides buff bots are not good for daoc (something they will never do), I will continue for a bit longer.
Well I think part of the issue also, was that after Wrath, that ended everything that was set down in Warcraft 3. Illidain had been taken care of in BC and now Arthas Wrath. So now all of a sudden they had to cook up a new "enemy".
To tell you honestly, after the next expansion, I would rather see WoW die and have them come out with a Warcraft 4 RTS and then follow that up with a WoW 2.
If WoW loses 80% of their subs they can still be quite profitable. Them coming back to Earth (a bit) and getting knocked down a peg are good things, they still pwn all other games and you may like to see WoW die but they are not anywhere near the front of that line.
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Wolfpaw_We posted:
JaconKin posted: Here goes what you can do with Gear in GW2 with its dye options.
And 5 hours after release, this is what you'll actually be seeing.
"All 400 dye colors are completed and named as of last week :o #gw2pax" @NeoNugget (from GW2Guru)
I don't think so.
As far what you had to say Kyrv. I don't think the current WoW will ever truly die, you still have people playing Everquest and AC to this day. Yet, I think once Titan comes out the focus will be more on that. It isn't for any hate towards WoW that I think that the following needs to occur. Its actually for the benefit of the game and the actual World of Azeroth. With how Starcraft 2 turned out, another RTS Warcraft game would be a huge success. Taking a "break" from focusing on WoW and taking the game back to the RTS would allow fresh and new ideas to be infused for a WoW 2, as well as new story and lore elements.
I think too many gamers forget were Warcraft got its start and perhaps Blizzard has as well, being blinded by the success of WoW, and that returning the game back to where it got its start will benefit both blizzard and the player, for the next iteration of WoW.
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Quazimortal Title: The One and Only Posts: 1,557 Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
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Orly?
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could take over Blizzard at this point and turn the subscription numbers around, but the current CEO can't (and still has a job).
