I've never rolled a character on Mordred. Something about being rolled at practically any place, by any one just didn't appeal to me. Although for a lot of players, it provided countless hours of entertainment and camaraderie. That server was home. Now sadly, it is all but dead, and because of the way the servers were set in the beginning, the characters can't be transferred to Ywain. Many of the players are frustrated and angry to say the very least.

Gaheris faces the same dilemma. On Gaheris, other than the occasional dual, there is no PVP. In the Frontiers, there are no towers, only the main keeps, and they are occupied by high end mobs. Those mobs have to be defeated and they drop seals that the players collect and turn in for realm points.

The other thing that makes these servers unique is that they lack the realm specificity that Ywain carries. On the alternative rulesets, you can have characters on all 3 realms and mix certain gear between them, you can roam each other's lands and capital cities, log off, switch realms, and log right back on with no timer restrictions. A cleric and a hero can run together and assist each other.

Right now, both of these servers are suffering from a severe lack of population and feel that the game developers aren't doing enough to keep their servers alive. So many have said they would gladly drop all their gear if they could transfer their characters to Ywain. For many, moving to Ywain meant a total restart to the game, and abandoning the characters that they often worked years on developing. It meant abandoning the houses they put up, the gear and items they collected over the years, and the plat they earned. None of it could be moved to Ywain. So there it sits on a dead server. Hard to trade for the Ywain equivalent so, you start again.

Topic of the Week asks: Have you played on the alternative rule sets? Do you think anything can be done to revive those servers?

Do you have any good topic ideas? If you have one you'd like to see posted, please drop me a line!

Reposted from Camelot Vault

 

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Add the proposed Molvik battleground to Gaheris. We (Gaheris players) get a PvP option, Mordred players can move to Gaheris and play their open-ended PvP, Ywain players can come to Gaheris to try out cross-realmed groups, etc. Everyone wins.

 

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The code is too different for Ywain players to cross realm group. Molvik's intention on Gaheris was to let Ywain players vs. Gaheris players, not group with them. So they still wouldn't be able to cross realm.


Oh wait I'm not a programmer so there is no way I could possibly know that...

Guess I'm just talking out of my ( | )

He's not saying Ywain toons would have access to the battleground, he's saying people would reroll from Ywain to try Gaheris out.

 

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somebody is mad

 

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Mordred can't be saved because there are better games out there for free-for-all PvP. The strength of DAOC PvP lies in RvR, not strict PvP.


Gaheris can't be saved without a time machine. Put simply, someone would need to go back 8-10 years and pound into the heads of Mythic's decision makers that while RvR made them different from EQ, there's going to be more and more games, and they are all going to be better than EQ. Show them that the PvE market is larger than the PvP market, and that owning a healthy slice of the PvE market is more cash than owning the entire PvP market......especially when you will still own the PvP market because no one has done it better yet. Convince them not to make the short-sighted decisions that catered to the RvR crowd but pushed away the actual majority of their playerbase.


Other than not reversing those short-sighted mistakes and not putting out new content, EA/Mythic hasn't really done anything wrong in the last 2-3 years. They've done a lot right, actually.

one downfall of daoc was making toa mandatory for people who liked to rvr. they should have either made toa items not effect rvr or added a way to obtain equivalents to them through rvr.

the way nf was implemented was also a bad choice. it was far to vast and different of an area to thrust people into.

all in all massive changes to the way a game is played has always proven detrimental to the game. daoc and swg are perfect examples.

But they did learn their lessons from ToA and implemented a vastly superior system with Champ levels. Vastly superior in terms of choices of how to get the rewards and in balancing the rewards, not necessarily in terms of the power of the rewards.

What games? Ultima Online in its original oldschool days is the only FFA pvp MMO I can think of. WoW/Rift/Aion/SW:ToR are all faction vs faction. Also Gaheris is done as well. I log in on my 50 friar and /who is like 40-50 players and Im sure thats really only 15-20 people with multiple accounts. Just on any of the 3 sides in Molvik or CV gives you more than that on any given day.

Thanks for the topic! They were going to merge Mordred and Gaheris together and have a PvP battleground within the Coop ruleset which I suggested. The compromise was that Gaheris would also receive a new PvE Battlegroup as well. This was publicly announced and almost implemented (you are given the option to port to Molvik at keeps but it fails to send you there). Mythic had a reshuffling while the plan was being implemented and so it was tabled. What a shame.

 

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