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Author Topic: I like gaheris but I don't know which kind of bot to get! [Locked]
JerkyDale
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Greetings Fellow DAoC'ers! I thought at long last I'd give Gaheris a try and it has been really nice! (1) People are so friendly, it reminds me of the old days! (2) I NEVER EVER EVER have to worry about getting perfed/backstabbed/poisoned! Lol, at any rate I digress. I was thinking of really making a concerted effort to get settled in Gaheris, but I'm not sure which kind of bot to have. I was going to roll a Spiritmaster for farming things, and my friend is going to roll a champion for tank support. I have played all three realms on the Ywain servers so i'm somewhat familiar with the druid/shaman/healer/cleric (mostly the cleric as ALbion is my home realm), and I was kind of leaning towards a cleric for the bot, since they have all the buffs you need plus they can heal better than a shaman. However I was thinking the druid attack speed and matter/heat/cold buffs might be better than the energy/body/spirit buffs. I'd greatly appreciate any input on whether a cleric/druid/shaman/healer would be "best". I was planning on having the bot be both a healer/buffer.
PasswordLLOTH  3 stars
Title: i can haz title
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Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
sham for the rr5 alone

 

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Saxona  1 star
Title: Viking of Paragon
Posts: 248
Registered: 2003-11-17 19:40:46
For versatility, enchanter > SM
For keeps, SM > enchanter
For buffers, druid > cleric > shaman
For speed, bard > (other 2 don't matter)
For raids everywhere, heretics
For raids in Galladoria, Sidi, TG and Strength relics in NF, theurgists
For tanking, armsman > warrior > hero > hybrids (paladins can be the best tank in situations where the boss mob doesn't do significant magic damage)
For blocking, paladin > armsman > warrior > hero > warden (warden is on the same level as paladin, but most people don't know how to spec them properly)

These are all personal opinion, but the experience behind these opinions is vast

 

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Saxona  1 star
Title: Viking of Paragon
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PasswordLLOTH posted:

sham for the rr5 alone

Immensely overrated. The amount of power toys available these days negates this argument easily.

 

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PasswordLLOTH  3 stars
Title: i can haz title
Posts: 517
Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
power toys + omni regen > power toys

 

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Abominations  1 star
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Registered: 2009-9-30 22:38:11
And Lose DI and BOF and PR with shaman over druid or cleric?

No Thanks, and If u run pally blockbot u get VR just like shaman can get for heals and like Saxona said theres enough power regen You do not need shaman rr5. Infernal Sleeves, Serenity, Staffs, Robes, Shields, etc
Saxona  1 star
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Registered: 2003-11-17 19:40:46
PasswordLLOTH posted:

power toys + omni regen > power toys

omni regen up every 10 minutes < DI, PR, haste for tanks and pets, instant heals, BOF (if you're the type that uses it)

 

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Saxona  1 star
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Abominations posted:

Infernal Sleeves, Serenity, Staffs, Robes, Shields, helm, cloak, gem, cudgel of undead

Just thought I'd change that for you. With the new summoner's hall items, new templates are going to have even more power toys. And even if you don't change your template, you now have Cudgel of the Undead which is a 50% power heal that can go in the main hand. You could have only your staff as a power heal in your template and still have 2 more power heals from dragon shield and this new cudgel.

 

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PasswordLLOTH  3 stars
Title: i can haz title
Posts: 517
Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
Saxona posted:

PasswordLLOTH posted:

power toys + omni regen > power toys

omni regen up every 10 minutes < DI, PR, haste for tanks and pets, instant heals, BOF (if you're the type that uses it)


damage mitigation has always been more important than powerful heals. di is stupid and mostly worthless. shamans get insta heals too and bof < a blockbot or again damage mitigation. shaman rr5 + friggs goes a long way towards constant regen. the only insta heal that matters for daoc is the group insta heal on a 10m timer(which shamans get) and pr isn't necessary on gaheris.
haste is celerity's retarded cousin(and a whore of a cousin at that with the realm buffbots) and pets are only there for keep doors/walls. tanks don't need haste because all they do is stand still and spam taunt.

this is why i played so well on the warden: pbt,rr5, insta group hot, and offensive heal proc spamming essence flames keeps a group up pretty damn well and when things got sticky i have a nice single target heal.
back to the original point: shaman rr5 doesn't use up an item timer. di bof and pr are a poor man's crutches.

 

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Abominations  1 star
Posts: 50
Registered: 2009-9-30 22:38:11
Think what you want, Shamans are the worst buff bot for doing high end stuff. Let me divulge:

You can do Dagda and Valhalla with a SM, Paladin, Druid, & Bard (If u have 4 accnts-not necessary)

Lets replace Druid with Shaman, it is very unlikely that you will be able to do Dagda and Valhalla with the 3 as said above probably impossible. DI is more then just a healing pool, any character healed by DI is granted that amount of "Agro" in which the healer will not get agro as fast. The minute the shaman uses VR5 or whatever thats 1500 for each grp member (3000hps for 3man or 4500hp for the 4man above) he will more then likely draw agro, die, you lose buffs, and then you will wipe.

For example, my druid does not even heal until all non heal spells are gone. I will use DI/BOF first (No druid agro), then Spiritmaster's RR5 (grp heal 3200 again no druid agro), then I will use Fragment of Excalibur (2000hp ablative melee dmg on relics Again no agro and absorbing 2000dmg), and finally Paladin's RR5 being 382hp every 3seconds for 15seconds to heal group (this agro again not on druid but infact on Paladin).

All while the above sequence of heals/dmg mitigation Paladin has heal chant going which is another 50hp/person agro to him. Druid then using baseline group heals only does not ever draw agro. You cannot do this with Shaman over Druid.

Thank you for playing!

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