Here's just an interesting idea to be tossed about lol. Why do we not just use the "trade" channel for keep communication? Advice and tells are both good ideas, but tbh advice is still used for a number of different things and tells can get confusing as well when trying to fight due to multiple lines of replies that can be generated at one time. I know personally at times I have 3-6 conversations going intells at once and it would be very easy to miss one asking about a keep especially when in the heat of combat and running multiple toons. /trade on the other hand is virtually never used on Gaheris anymore (at least I haven't seen it used in many years) and it has it's own unique color code seperate from /region. Just a thought.

 

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No matter which channel and color are used, if people use the new custom of asking "anybody on ...?" it's inevitable that the question will sometimes be missed, and the questioner won't know whether it was missed, leading to the scenario I described in my last post.

The traditional system solves this problem. The traditional system didn't use a different color or channel. It asked a different kind of question. The traditional system directs the question not to "anybody" in general, but to particular groups and individuals.

With the traditional system, you know when the question was missed. With the new system ("is anybody on ...?) you do not know when the question was missed.

With the traditional system, since you know when the question was missed, it makes no difference which channel you use.

 

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Ok how about this: First you do a /realm, take notes of the keeps you wish to visit. Then log out, send this list to my email. I will then ignore it. Meanwhile you should do a /who and starting at the top of the trunicated list send a tell to each person asking "Are you currently killing roaming keep guards, beating down keep doors, clearing the walls, or fighting a keep lord at <name of keep> in <name of zone> on the Gaheris server? If not, are you planning on doing any of these activities at <name of keep> in <name of zone> on the Gaheris server within the next 365 days?

Keep spamming these questions until you get an answer or contacted by a CSR about harassment. Once you have completed the list you may then approach the keep and use /region and ask "Is anybody on <name of keep>?"

/region and /b are classified as the same. If you change /region, /b will be the same color.

I also usually do what Ribble described, to an extent. If I'm going to a keep, I do a /who and see if anyone is in the region. If it's someone I don't know, I ask "is anyone on ..". If I do know who it is, I send them tells to coordinate so I know which keep to hit next without having to guess if my next keep is the same another keep group had in mind.

 

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Not many people feel the same way you do, though. When the fastest speed you have is mounts or enchanter speed, people get really annoyed when they run all the way from OG to Glenlock just to find someone already on it.

 

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So assuming the 'old way' is to do a /who and start sending tells everywhere, what happens when you run into people running /anon?

There is no perfect system, and no perfect solution. The crux of this discussion is keep etiquette, which goes both ways, not only do we need to be asking who is on keep x every time, we need to keep a sharp eye out for the question being asked in chat (part of this is, yes, making sure you have /reg in a bold color that stands out, another part is asking people in chat every time, and yet another part it patience) If you can't do these things on a server that is 'co op' then you are quite frankly on the wrong server.

 

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When I was doing keeps, would always do a /who (region) before going to those keeps and like robbie said.
I would ask those people if they were doing that keep, if they were then I'd goto a different realm.
Saying something like, ok you've got Glen/Rens and I'll goto Crauch or whatever keep was still avail.
It's just showing courtesy, seems like people in general lack that now.

 

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i always did what ribble said. if that wont work using some other channel definitely wont. and setting some non logical rule here wont work for people who never come here.

my big complaint was people who would go anon. but i only remember a couple groups doing that when i played and they would always eventually die, and id swoop on in and take their keep and play dumb because i never saw them on /who. a couple times of that and suddenly they would show up on /who.

Yeah I logged on after posting and played with the message and channel options and saw that. The rest of what I posted was just poking fun because no matter what gets decided here it will not be an official rule and there will always be A-holes who are going to ignore etiquette and the rules. Mind you I'm not one of those people though

well iam a new gaheris player, and i "allways" ask in region if someone is in that zone, if i know the person i would send a tell, but the problem is that the grps that i dont know i wont send a tell to asking i would just use region and if they dont answere i would run to the keep and check, if it then turned out that grp was on it well sucks to be me and i would move on to the next.

from what ive seen with the recently influx of euro players is that most of them are bad at english(yes i can say that as iam from europe aswell) its not that they are "rude" its that they might not understand what is being said and by that dont understand how things are normaly done here, now this is just a guess !