Lexi_Necrodiva posted:
I'm confused now... are u saying that nigerian gangs had no play in apatheid and the movie portrayed that as false... and that they do not act like that or what?
I'm confused now... are u saying that nigerian gangs had no play in apatheid and the movie portrayed that as false... and that they do not act like that or what?
No, I am asking you to prove that Nigerian gangs were in South Africa during apartheid. Your links have failed to do so thus far.
Lexi_Necrodiva posted:
at first u said they were no in that period.. i proved that they were on both sides..
at first u said they were no in that period.. i proved that they were on both sides..
Where? Your link has only shown that the Nigerian's played a role as peace keepers and helped bring about the end of apartheid. Your other link has shown that Nigerian gangs were in South Africa in the 1990's, decades after apartheid was over.
Lexi_Necrodiva posted:
u then said nigerians were not in the area by your map contradiction... i proved that...
u then said nigerians were not in the area by your map contradiction... i proved that...
You proved what? That Nigerians were in the area? My 'map contradiction' was supposed to pose the question of why the movie chose Nigerian gangs would travel across the continent.
Lexi_Necrodiva posted:
so what are you saying now? that their behavioral charectoristics are that of helpers and peacekeepers during this time period?
so what are you saying now? that their behavioral charectoristics are that of helpers and peacekeepers during this time period?
No, I am asking you to show me, through your links and quotes, where Nigerians came to South Africa and committed atrocities against the apartheid blacks.
Lexi_Necrodiva posted:
the links show gang violence pre and post that period.. and the large amount of population in that area prior to the events of d6...
the links show gang violence pre and post that period.. and the large amount of population in that area prior to the events of d6...
If your argument is only that there were gangs in South Africa in apartheid, then there is no argument. If this is the case, my original argument still stands that they were stupid to choose blacks to be the gangs and to portray them as animalistic and barbaric - regardless of whether or not it was true. Why? Because the movie used metaphors for all other key players and factions to represent their point, and failed to do so for the most important part of the moral (for this movie), the black culture.
Lexi_Necrodiva posted:
so we went from u trying to say they were portayed wrong to u saying there are no nigerians in south africa (like chile / mexicans) etc.. what's next? honestly.. is this your only soap box at this point?
so we went from u trying to say they were portayed wrong to u saying there are no nigerians in south africa (like chile / mexicans) etc.. what's next? honestly.. is this your only soap box at this point?
I went from asking you to give me proof that Nigerians were in South Africa, committing atrocities during apartheid. I used the Chile / Mexico metaphor to show how far apart the two countries were... literally across the continent.
Lexi_Necrodiva posted:
if u want me to go on their behavioral charectoristics in the movie.. a simple search on voo doo prostitutes of nigeria shows a nice many things.
if u want me to go on their behavioral charectoristics in the movie.. a simple search on voo doo prostitutes of nigeria shows a nice many things.
Again, you convoluted the argument, and argue things that I never have said or contradicted. I know there are tribal beliefs in Africa, I know Nigerians have practiced them. But why add it to a movie when it only detracts from the theme?
Again, whether or not they were basing the characteristics on reality is beside the point and irrelevant. It would be like making a movie about Jews during World War II, showing the encampments and then juxtaposing pictures and video of dead Palestinian children with Israeli soldiers standing and bombs dropped around them. You could point to historical fact or evidence all day, but the fact remains that any moral set up through the movie would be torn down by the contrasting images. This should not be that difficult of a concept to grasp. I think your views on blacks is clouding your ability to see simple analogies.
Lexi_Necrodiva posted:
u took this way off topic... your arguement was aout how it wrongly portrayed blacks as animals in making a msg even tho u said "And I'm not arguing that this was being untrue to African gangs, but it's a bit counterproductive to portray them in such a way when trying to deliver such a strong moral." the movie portayed the nigerian gangs as violent and voo doo following cannabals.. which is often practiced in that belief...
u took this way off topic... your arguement was aout how it wrongly portrayed blacks as animals in making a msg even tho u said "And I'm not arguing that this was being untrue to African gangs, but it's a bit counterproductive to portray them in such a way when trying to deliver such a strong moral." the movie portayed the nigerian gangs as violent and voo doo following cannabals.. which is often practiced in that belief...
There just are no words... it's like arguing with a two year old.
Lexi_Necrodiva posted:
u went from that to history and geography.. ..
u went from that to history and geography.. ..
I brought up geography because you seem to think that all black people are the same. Oh, some stuff happened in Liberia, so it must be true throughout the continent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rncKWjakorA&feature=channel_page
Title of that is: Albinos being murdered for voodoo rituals in Africa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmrkTi3EHqk
This one is: The Cannibals' War - Liberia
http://www.heretical.com/cannibal/congo1.html
Where? the Congo? Yeah... that's South Africa alright!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1199985/Now-goes-trial-Africas-cannibal-despot-Charles-Taylor-finally-just-deserts.html
Liberia? Hmm.. I guess they all are the same after all!
Forget it Lexi. All you've done in this thread (moreso the PMs) has been to solidify my beliefs that you are a racist... and that you don't even know what it is. I still love you though, and I'm sure baby Jesus does too.
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