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Author Topic: So, I finally read 'Changes' and I think you people are really overreacting. (SPOILERS) [Locked]
GrimTempest  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-21 01:36:49
i can't post my response here its so colorful

and yeah its a bummer their "date" never happened because it does seem long overdue for them. i also thought that this is going to cause murphy to take up the sword too.

 

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Ptilk  4 stars
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Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
Screw Butcher.

The books always stood alone. That was one of the best things about them.

To cop out and make a stupid cliff hanger crapfest now pisses me off. He doesn't need to do it, it didn't add to the enjoyment of the book, it didn't add to the story...it was just a cheap gimmick and I hate gimmicks.

You can excuse him if you want.

I'll stick with expressing my extreme displeasure at him for such a shitey ploy. Don't do it again bitch. Write a god damn book, make it interesting, we all know you can, don't sink to stupidity to get people to read your next one. You don't need too. Millions of us are doing so to every book you write.

Idiot.

Books tell a story. They don't tell part of it. That's why "urban fantasy" caught on so fast and has pushed just about every other kind of fantasy off the shelves lately. You don't have to wait 5 years and buy 3 books to get one god damn story.
Yossarian_42  4 stars
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Posts: 1,046
Registered: 2002-2-28 11:23:20
He didn't leave a cliffhanger.

Changes did exactly what you want. It had a complete, fully contained story. All of the conflict in the book is resolved before the end of the book. Dresden has solved all of the problems before the last chapter.

Butcher didn't write a cliffhanger to try and con people who have read his last 12 books in to reading 13. He didn't cut the story off before the climax to torture you for a year. You freaking know that Dresden isn't going to be dead and gone so why does it bother you? All he did was write an intrigue that hints at the next book.

The end of Changes has created zero anxiety in me and it certainly isn't tricking me in to buying the next book. All it does is make me think about the implications; I have considered who could have done it, what the next book will be about and how the resolution of the next book with effect Dresden's ties to various people. If you think that is a bad thing then I don't understand why you enjoy books to begin with.

 

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vn_jurojin  1 star
Title: Insolent Insomniac
Posts: 205
Registered: 2001-12-20 03:26:39
Why even argue with him at this point Yos? He's obviously not comfortable reading anything except stories like goosebumps or other young adult books.
Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
Posts: 1,266
Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Ptilk posted:

Books tell a story. They don't tell part of it.



I'm pretty sure that in every one of his books, he's left plots and themes that he's picked up on in the following books. Were you upset with him for not finding the Black Council in the first book he coined the term? Or not fulfilling Mab's three requests in the book she forced them on him? How about being annoyed that he didn't take out the entire Red Court when Bianca died? I'd say that the narrator "dying" in a first-person story is on par with Dresden starting a war in one book, or Thomas turning back to the White Court at the end of the previous book. These aren't cliffhangers, they're part of an overall plot.

 

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